Re: (DS): Systems per Class

My bad.  I deleted the posts to save space on this old 486 and wasn't
sure.

Yes, two issues.

Actually I agree with you but I think it was done to retain simplicity
in
the system.  I don't question it might be okay to have more 'tubes' per
vehicle.  I think a multiple RFAC/1 (how about class 3 with 6 barrel
turret with a PDS/Basic?) vehicle should be able to be fielded.  Would I
do so for 'my army' (not the flawed creations I use in the games I run)
?
 Probably not unless I had a special application that called for it in
the game.  But yes, the rules are possibly unduly restrictive but it
doesn't usually bother me because I accept it as part of the simplicity
of the	game system.

So we agree the design rules are flawed but we disagree that they need
to
be fixed because we have a different desire for the game system (it
appears.)  And that's okay.

Prophecy <grin> time!  I prophesy that DS 3 will not become published
before December 31, 2007.  And maybe not Ever.	Too few tread heads
versus grunts versus Vacc-heads to make it a high enough priority for
Jon
T.  As long as he keeps making miniatures, that's okay with me.

Gracias,
Glenn

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Brian B
<greywanderer987@yahoo.com> writes:
>No, it was NOT me who first brought up infantry, so
>dont pin it on me! And the issue is really separate of
>sf vs rl as well! I just think the rule limiting a
>vehicle to a number of weapons equal to its class is
>redundant and overly restrictive, and so far Ive yet
>to see a relevant counterargument.
>--- owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
><warbeads@juno.com> wrote:
>> Now,  was that a cop out? <grin>
>> 
>> Capacity rules include Fire Teams but not as weapons
>IMO.  YMMV.
>> 
>>  I must say that someone (not you?) brought up the
>Fire Teams as weapons
>> systems so I was responding to that.  I think the
>rules, flawed and
>> unrealistic as they are, still work well as a game. 
>And I am interested
>> in the game, not a simulation of reality.
>> 
>> Been there, done that in real life.	And as long as
>you ignored human
>> factors the simulations work.
>> 
>> But that's the fun stuff in a game.
>> 
>> Gracias,
>> Glenn
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Brian B
>> <greywanderer987@yahoo.com> writes:
>> >fine, but my issue has nothing to do with fire
>teams.
>> >Again, its with the rule overall.
>> >--- owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>> ><warbeads@juno.com> wrote:
>> >> We had this debate the first time I was on the
>list.
>> > I still think Fire
>> >> Teams are not 'weapons systems' nut YMMV.
>> >> 
>> >> Gracias,
>> >> Glenn
>> >> 
>> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:20:54 -0400 (EDT) John K
>> >Lerchey
>> >> <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> >> >Hm.  I don't see how this is a "consensus"
>issue,
>> >unless my reading 
>> >> >comprehension skills are suffering badly.  I
>just
>> >re-read the vehicle 
>> >> >design rules.  It clearly states that you may
>have
>> >one *weapon system* 
>> >> >per 
>> >> >size point of the vehicle.  It says nothing
>about
>> >limits on 
>> >> >non-weapons 
>> >> >other than the fact that they use capacity.
>> >> >
>> >> >?
>> >> >
>> >> >John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >John K. Lerchey
>> >> >Computer and Network Security Coordinator
>> >> >Computing Services
>> >> >Carnegie Mellon University
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Brian B wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This isnt a request for clarification so much
>as
>> >> >> consensus: how many players out there ignore
>the
>> >rule
>> >> >> limiting the number of.systems a vehicle can
>> >carry to
>> >> >> the vehicles class, and instead use capacity
>> >alone?
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