Re: Nobility.... or not....

At 11:13 PM -0500 12/2/01, Thomas Barclay wrote:
>While I suspect that in the re-assembled NAC,
>the Americans would still reject the idea of the
>inequality of some citizens by virtue of birthright
>(at least insofar as their right to govern goes),
>this would probably only be an attitude that the
>NAC powers-that-be would work around.
>Remember, the UK is a democracy. There is a
>Queen, but when was the last time she went out
>and declared a war on someone? (It has been
>some time). Canada, while retaining the Queen
>as titular head of state, actually leaves little or
>no place for her in public policy (yes, the
>Governor General basically counts as "little or
>no").
>
>I'm betting when the territories of North and
>South America are included, the format will be:
>
>- Parliamentary (some reformed system that is
>not first-past-the-post or let-the-lawyers-sort-it-
>out) and Democratic.
>- Recognizing "Honour Nobles" (Peerages
>granted for service) for what they are - simply
>some people given a minor reward (a modifier
>to their name, a bit of land maybe) for public
>service (always a good thing to encourage and
>no different than granting land for military
>service, a time honoured tradition).
>
>Yes, some former Americans may dislike this.
>Gee, I wonder if the NAC might have insurgent
>movements? Seems likely. American Militias who
>can't abide the idea of a foreign King (even if
>the country really is run by a Prime Minister....)
>but who are fine with families of huge hereditary
>wealth and power (Rockafellers, Fords, etc) or
>who live in a priveledged status due to there
>presence on the TriD (entertainers) or who are
>effectively more powerful than royalty due to
>consolidation of huge amounts of economic
>power in various sectors (Wm. Gates "call me
>Bill", Larry Elison, the head of GE, etc).

Oh yeah...Earl of Microsoft. That'd be great to live under. Likely 
land would be granted off planet. Taking someone else's land to give 
to some "noble" would spark class wars like you've never seen before. 
If the Earl of Microsoft were to start living off planet, people 
would probably be all the happier.

>And some would stay and fight about it. The
>SAS has, I note, had plenty of practice dealing
>with internal insurgencies. And the British have a

Heh. Ever talk to a native Irishman about gun ownership? They 
absolutely abhor the idea of private ownership of firearms. Compare 
that to Americans of some strain. Add a terrain that is far more 
expansive. You could increase the SAS units by a factor of ten and 
they'd never have enough time to visit 5% of the US.

>certain talent (fails at times, but far better than
>their peers in this regard) at maintaining a light
>hand in the Colonial power game (contrast with
>France or the Dutch....). And some of the
>former United States citizens who really could
>not abide life in the NAC could either 1) Go join
>the UNSC, 2) Go live in FCT, or 3) Go live on

UNSC, even worse.

FCT, not a bad idea.

>some outrim world where they can revive the
>US Constitution, the Republic, and all that stuff.
>Gee, another NAC splinter group.....

Which we want to keep down. Remember the impositon of NAC rule on the
US was to help a bad situation, not to hurt.

>People can play this however they like, but
>canon shows us: The NAC is still a
>Kingdom/Monarchy. The NAC has absorbed a
>destroyed and torn-down former-American
>republic and has captured and integrated all of
>Central and South America. The only seemingly
>willing (and still whole and structurally sound)
>volunteer was Canada (AFAIK), and that may
>have been as much an acknowledgement of the
>way the winds were blowing and who protects
>who and trades with them as it was any
>idealistic fascination for Monarchy. But I think

I'd like to think that the British learned something about the 18th 
and early 19th centuries and would use some wisdom when dealing with 
the people's of North, Central and South America.

>
>the canon is pretty clear that the NAC is still a
>Monarchy and the US, Canada, and the rest of
>the Americas are now part of that Monarchy.

But it is a Confederation. Not an Empire. Not a Republic. A 
confederation is very very loose.

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