RE: TOE (was Cheese factor)

Sorry to be picky, but a few glaring inaccuracies; from the early 70s
(well
from pretty much Vietnam mid 60s) to late 90s the Oz Infantry Section
was
pretty static.

The infantry section/squad has team of 3; Gunner, No2 and Section 2IC
(LCpl), rifle group of 3 and Scout/Command Group of 3; No1 Scout, No2
and
Sect Comd/Squad Leader (there is only 1 LCpl not three) total of 9 and
very
rarely is there a radio operator.

At Company Level there was/is not Heavy Weapons platoon; it consists of
a
Support Section of 2 MGs in Tripod Role (Extended Range Kit including C2
Sight for Indirect fire), OR 2 Carl Gustav 84mm AT Recoilless "Gun".

Battalion consists of 4 Rifle Companies (remember Long Tan D Coy 6RAR
received a US Citation) and a Support Company including Mortar Platoon,
Anti-Armor OR MG Platoon (more M60s or MAG58 type on Tripod with C2),
Recon
Platoon which usually managed the 2 or 3 sniper pairs, Assault Pioneer
Platoon and Signals Platoon (responsible for comms for Rifle Coy to Bn
HQ
plus Retrans and other specialist tasks).

With the adoption of the Minimi to replace the M60/MAG58 (referred to
now as
the LSW - Light Support Weapon) the intention has/is to run two
Fireteams of
a Minimi and 2 Rifleman plus a Scout/Command of 2 Riflemen and Section
Commander/Squad Leader.

Australian and British Army Ranks place a Corporal at Section/Squad
Leader
and LCpl at Sect/Squad 2IC (Compare to US Army Sergeants/Corporals).

A site highly recommended for some interesting organisations; accuracy
for
some is a little suspect but gives a feel for various nationalities and
good
background for your own forces!

http://www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~aaron/mod_org.html

Owen G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> [mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan and
Carmel
> Brain
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2001 6:17 PM
> To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: TOE (was Cheese factor)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn M Mininger" <smininger@yahoo.com>
> To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:02 AM
> Subject: RE: Cheese factor
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> > OK, I know we have a lot of folks here from around the
> > world, so please pipe up with how your country does
> > these things.
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> Here's the organisation that Oz used in the 70's, which
> is when I last wore cammo gear:
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> A Squad consists of 3 sections + Command.
> 1 LMG Section of 2
> 1 Rifle Section of 4
> 1 Scout Section of 2, often merged with Command when
> in contact with the enemy.
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> Command would be a Corporal, and usually a radio operator.
> There'd be a	LCpl in each of the 3 other sections.
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> Tactics were to pin enemy with MG, while Rifle group
> manoeuvred round flank to give enfilade. Command/Scout
> attached to either MG or Rifle as situation dictated. Against
> heavy opposition, the MG and Rifles would form the base of
> fire, while the scouts infiltrated round the flank or found
> a path of retreat, as needed.
> Against mediocre opposition, the life of a scout was the most
dangerous.
> Against competent opposition, it was the safest, with radio operator
and
> command (in that order) being the most hazardous.
> The LMG was an M60, these days would be a SAW. The scouts
> often had M16s or (sometimes silenced) SMGs, the rest
> SLRs (near equivt of M14). These days everyone has an AusSteyr.
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> A Platoon is 3 Squads, plus command, a Lt and Sergeant.
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> A Company is 3 platoons, plus sometimes a Heavy Weapons Platoon,
> who had AT gear (Carl Gustav), extra MGs etc.
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> A Batallion is 3 Companies, plus a Heavy Weapons Company,
> with 81mm Mortars etc. there'd usually be some attachments,
> such as transport elements, engineers, recon etc.
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> 3-4 Batallions would be in a Brigade, but organisations above
Batallion
> would normally be a Task Force whose composition would depend
> on the job to be done. A Task Force might include an armour company,
> an armoured cav company, engineer company, signals, bridging,
> 2 leg Infantry batallions, and 3 Artillery batteries, plus aviation.
If
> operating way behind enemy lines, expect a large SAS component and
> much transport too, as there'd be no line of supply as such.
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