Re: 15mm fig scans, includes Frei Korp, citadel Trav

At 10:46 PM 12/2/00 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I put up a listing of a bunch of 15mm minis, including scans of some
>of my own stuff.  It was primarly to help out some local players, but
>I figured heck, it's so hard to find pics of miniatures anywhere, I'd
>scan some stuff in.  As I order more, I'll put up more pics where
>appropriate.
>
>http://www.cowell.org/~andy/min/15mm/
>
>By the way, if anybody could help id the unknown figures, that'd be
>great.

The Heavy and Light Power Armor figures are definately Laserburn.  The
Misc
Aliens One are Laserburn "Oorts", and the guys in Partial Light Armor
are
Laserburn as well.  Security troops, I think.

I don't recognize the Cops or  Misc. Aliens 2, and I can't make out the
adventurers clearly enough to identify them.

Hope that helps a little.

John X Crimmins
johncrim@voicenet.com
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From: "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>
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Subject: Re: [FT] Salvo Missile Range
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Peter Mancini wrote:

>Well the obvious answer is to just be more physics correct and give
>anything launched from a ship (fighters included) the same vector as
>the ship.  The SRM's then would, relatively speaking, see the launch
>vehicle as standing still (assuming no ACC or direction change).
> 
>Of course this is a fundamental change to the way the game is >played,
but with FT3 coming out, perhaps it is a necessary one?

<sigh> This only about the fifth time I've seen this one suggestion
come up in this thread, and it is just as disastrous for game balance
now as it was on the previous occasions. The only difference here is
that you allow two winning design strategies rather than only one:
eggshell carriers and eggshell missile boats, rather than eggshell
missile boats exclusively.

Some time back Brian pointed out that missiles are already able to
launch from outside the target's weapon range, so a "vector missile"
system would make no difference. He was only partly right,
unfortunately: missiles can launch from outside the target's weapon
range currently - but only if the target is moving towards the
launching unit. If the target is moving sideways, or is moving away
from the launcher, the launching unit needs to get at least into B2
range in order to hit. This means that the *target's* actions have a
large impact on the battle outcome, even if the target is lower-thrust
than the launcher.

With a "vector missile" system however, the only thing that matters is
the difference in speed between the launcher and the target. If the
launcher has a higher thrust rating than the target, there is nothing
at all the target can do - except to wait for the missiles and pray.
Single-shot missile boats tend to have rather high thrust ratings...

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

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Glenn m wilson wrote:

>girls' ages 12 going on 21

?? It's not polite to inquire about a girl's age... so I won't <g>

Oerjan Ohlson
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From: "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>
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Richard Bell write;

>> [Bri] Makes sense, but you assume you start the design with
>> large weapons first. What if you start with a design of 18 class-1s
>>and want replace them with a all-arc Class-4 beam?
> 
>This is disallowed by most engineering conventions

You have, or at least *can* have, just the same problem when going in
the other direction (ie. from large to small weapons). 

Imagine that you want to replace the spinal gun of a Renegade Legion:
Leviathan-style battleship. In Full Thrust this is a big K-gun; I'd
rate it as a K5 or larger. The hull of the ship is literally built
around this weapon; the only part of the weapon which reaches the
surface of the hull is the muzzle - and that's no bigger than a single
B1. 

If you replace the rest of the spinal gun with B1s, you need to turn
your ship inside-out in order for them to fire (unless you *want* them
to blast holes in your own hull, of course!). I respectfully submit
that turning a ship inside-out is a bigger change of "socket paradigm"
than the AVRO Arrow engine one.

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Christney" <tchristney@home.com>
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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FT] Vacuum-Head Help Required!

> I'll try not to go over ground that has already been covered...
>
> >Okay, Breathers of The Cosmic Emptiness, please share with me your
wisdom
in
> >its ample supply!
> >
> >Orbits - I have a bunch of defsats/stations. I want them to orbit a
planet.
> >Assume the following details in answering the questions:
> >
> >Planet diameter Dp = 6-8" (6000-8000 km);
> >Game scale = 1000 km/inch;
> >Turn length = 15-20 minutes;
> >Satellites are defense platforms to protect the planet from invasion
or
> >orbital attack.
> >
> >Q1: Do I want such objects in geosynch or non-geosynch orbit? Why?
Why
not?
>
> One advantage of using geosynchronous orbits is that you can save big
> on the ground. Since the satellites will be over the same part of the
> planet at all times, you can have fewer ground stations controlling
the
> action. On the other hand, if you only have three or four command and
> control centres, then you are making a ripe target for the enemy.
>
> >Q4: Would your answers to the above questions change, and how, if
these
> >platforms purpose was to act as ortillery platforms and as
surveillance
> >platforms for the planet rather than defense sats? And would it be
possible
> >to have one satellite constellation provide both roles? If so, what
orbital
> >parameters would such a system require?
>
> There are arguments for placing surveillance birds in both orbit
types.
> That is why both the US and Russia have both types. Geosynch orbits
> for early warning satellites, non-synchronous orbits for high-res
> photography.

Also, response time (for ortillery shooting) from low orbit, assuming
they
are in position, would be much better than geosynch.

>
> I don't think that satellites would make particularly good ortillery
> platforms. I think that you would want a platform that could deliver
> ordinance to any place on the planet on demand. Especially in the
> fast paced world of DS2.

Not necessarily.  The "Thor" idea is pretty good--a whole bunch of
really
cheap very-low orbit satellites that consist of basically masses of
finned
long-rod penetrators (with heat shields and basic terminal guidance). 
We're
talking hundreds of these satellites each one packing a few hundred
penetrators.  There would be some delay, of course, before they hit the
target area, but I don't think it would be too much more than real
long-range indirect-fire arty.

<snipo>

> >------------------------------------------
> >Thomas R. S. Barclay
> >Voice: (613) 722-3232 ext 349
> >e-mail: tomb@bitheads.com
> >
> >Now, now my good man, this is no time for making enemies.
> >
> >Voltaire (1694-1778), on his death bed in response to a priest asking
that
> >he renounce Satan.
> >------------------------------------------
>
> --
>
> Tony Christney
>
>
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At 6:29 PM -0600 12/1/00, Jesse Casey wrote:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1043000/1043001.stm
>

And so it begins.
-- 

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At 9:57 PM -0500 12/1/00, Mark Kochte wrote:
>On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Noel Weer wrote:
>
>>  I would love to come... but RL(tm) and distances involved tend to
>>  impeded any plans along that angle. Is there ever a GZG event that
is
>>  not on the East Coast?
>
>GZG West Coast Con??  :-)  Run by Ted Arlauskis, the first GZGWCC
>was earlier this past October. I understand it went quite well
>and there will be a GZGWCC II.  :-)
>
>Mk

I'm still pissed I had the flu that weekend.
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> Worse, ask you significant other to buy them for you for Christmas...
> Ooooh, the visuals of her in the game store looking at the miniatures
> is... painful.

Actually I just got my fleet via mail order.  I plan on painting it up
so
that there is no way in hell I can use it at a convention.  A friend
offered
some shedded cat hair to add to the larger ships.  Having played with
the
ships, using proxies, I like the fleet.  The fact that they are
disgusting
looking just makes them all that much more fun to use or conversely to
fight!	At first I was put off by the whole thing, then I realized that
sex
isn't nearly as obscene as war and went with the flow.	Now I can have
the
best of both worlds.

--Peter
"and yes, my "Father"ship is called 'Big Jim Slade'..."
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1) Thanks for the math, list dudes! I've got enough formulae to do me
for a
while now. 

2) Tony C said:
I don't think that satellites would make particularly good ortillery
platforms. I think that you would want a platform that could deliver
ordinance to any place on the planet on demand. Especially in the
fast paced world of DS2.

To which I reply:
I was thinking of a defsat/ortillery platform combination. I happen to
have
some "not released" ICE Silent Death minis that make excellent Defsat
platforms, somewhere between 30 and 40 mass. I was thinking if you set
them
up geosynchchronous at the right altitude, you could use them for
surveillance, a base for orbital Search and Rescue, a base for ortillery
in
the event it was required, and a nasty set of weapons platforms with
mutual
support capability, and I suppose perhaps a base for fighters or as
controllers for a whole network of small dumb fighter-mines that
otherwise
sit dormant. 

In Renegade Legion, they had ortillery satellites that launched THOR
Javelins (fin stabilized, guided penetrators) that dropped from orbit
and
(if they hit) pretty much terminated any AFV. They were guided by fins,
had
no innate propulsion (maybe a magnetic launch like a railgun to get them
moving quick) and got the benefits of soaking up energy in a
long-distance
drop from low-orbit. A tungsten-carbide rod moving at ridiculous
velocities
tends to be unpleasant for the recipient vehicle...

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