Re: [GZG] GW and Re: Artillery considerations (was: Re: Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi!)

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> > I find it really funny how the orginal request "what is the current 
> > 40k game like?" has generated a huge storm about people's bad 
> > experiences 10+ years ago with the game that bares little 
> > relationship to the current version.
> >
> >
> 
> Mine go back almost 20 (gulp!) years.  RT came out in 86 / 87 right? 
> Sheesh.  Teh Age is getting to me.
> 
> Damo
> 

Well I have to say, I've really enjoyed this thread.  I'd put myself
into 
the mild 'Not a GW fan' camp - however I have flirted with them over the

years.	I can remember being very excited when the first GW shop opened
in 
Hammersmith in the late 70s.  I still have some of the figures that I 
bought at that stage - for D&D at that point.  I also have first edition

Warhammer rules (three A4 booklets in a box) which was initially at that

point an RPG.  I lost interest in GW stuff once White Dwarf became a 
marketing magazine - but recently (about two years ago) bought the
latest 
Warhammer rules (along with the Orc/Goblins and Empire rule supplements)

just to give it a go after a 20 year break.  I've not got any GW figures
- 
I used fantasy figures and ancient figures that I already owned for
other 
systems - and scratch built some new stuff (e.g. Goblin Chariot).  I 
played about 15 games in total, mostly with another non-GW friend but a 
few with a friend who worked in my local GW shop.  I was left feeling 
vaguely dissatisfied.  I think that the issue is that GW games are great

as an intro to miniature based games, however once you've tried a range
of 
other games, returning to GW just doesn't work.  The shame is that so
many 
GW junkies never discover what else the hobby has to offer.  (Of course
- 
there's the changing rules, business practices, etc, too - but we've 
covered that already.)

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