RE: [FT] Ship Names

Just picked one at random to reply to here, you have all being a big
help.
I'm getting the impression that there is a huge range of options.  I
think I
might just include 'libraries' so you pick a class library and then the
ship
in the Fleet Organizer will get a name at random (maybe with memory so
you
don't get repeats, or an option for specifying ones that have died - for
a
bit of personalisation).
If anyone wants to put together some lists - simple text files will be
fine
with 1 entry per line - for each line (eg. flowers, nobles, important
people, historical).
Also, names for the other major sides would be useful.	I can create
base
ones for the OU.  Australia currently names after cities, and (I think)
significant people.  You have the HMS Hobart, Perth, etc, Anzac class
frigates, collins class subs, etc, but if there is someone more
knowledgable
on the list about this, could you please put together a list.

Thanks all for your help - oh, and this request also extends to those
who
normally exist in deep lurker mode =p

Andrew Ayres
mailto:ftshipcreator@bigpond.com
http://ftsc.congdonweb.net

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From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of Ryan Gill
Sent: Monday, 30 July 2001 3:09 AM
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [FT] Ship Names

At 9:38 PM +1000 7/29/01, Andrew Ayres wrote:
>Hey All,
>  I'm just catching up after 3 months of not being able to read
messages
>(and boy can this list right!), but I need to pick up on a thread from
2
and
>a half months ago.
>
>The thread was NAC peerage, but it had names of nobles as in below, but
I
>was thinking these would make great names for ship designs, and ship
names
>for actual ones in fleets.  For the FTSC, people have requested a name
list,
>so if people can give me lists of names (preferably from all major -
and
>minor if available - sides) I can incorporate these into the program.
>Optionally, indicate names best suited to classes, and other best
suited to
>names, though I'd be happy enough with any names.

At least going by strict British Naval tradition, members of the
peerage aren't normally chosen as Namesakes for warships. The US
names ships after specific individuals that have either performed
heroic actions, or have done great service for the Navy.

The problem with naming for the peerage title is that it will be
confusing as to which one you are speaking of. Iron Duke and Black
Prince are exceptions as those titles were epithets that were taken
with honor. There are a few like Nelson, Jellicoe (became Anson),
Beatty (became Howe). One exception I can find is the Duke of York.

Obviously the King/Queen are excepted (sometimes members of the royal
family) but usually its either descriptive words, Invincible,
Indefatigable, Illustrious, Valiant, Revenge, Terrible etc. Cruisers
typically had city names (London, Devonshire, Sussex, Norfolk,
Nottingham, Southampton), or during WWII some were named for counties
(Suffolk, Berwick, Kent, etc). Then there are the usual spate of
Mythological names, Achillies, Ajax. There are also names from
territories. Malaya ( Battleship since they contributed a large sum
to the war effort), New Foundland, Uganda, Cylon, etc.

Typically the names followed a theme. For example the Admiralty S
class DD had Scabre, Saladin, Sardonyx, Scimitar, Scout, Shikari, and
the oddball name Tenedos. Birds are sometimes used as in the Black
Swan class of Sloops. Black Swan, Snipe, Sparrow, Starliong, MAgpie,
PEacock, Pheasant, Redpole, Cygnet, Wren, etc. During WWII, there was
also a Castle class named for many castles (Amberley Castle, Farnham
Castle, Oxford Castle, Flint Castle, etc).

The current class of landing ships in the RN use Arthurian names, Sir
Galahad, Sir Bedivere, Sir Lancelot, etc. There are also ships named
for forts, leafs (Oak Leaf, Apple Leaf etc. )

I suspect a correct patter for NAC names would be a combination of
US, RN and RCN practice. Canadian names are interesting in the large
use of Native American (First Nations to you Canadians in the list)
names for warship names.

Take a gander over at http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/ for names.
Its also a great source for Froggie, Eurie and Other names.

What do you name an OU DD? Te Kaha perhaps? Toowoomba maybe?

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