RE: [FT] Yet another question about fighters...

Okay, I'm lost.

I'm not sure what 'lurking' means here. Sounds like the interceptors are
already in the battle, and will be taking shots anyway. My point was, in
a furball, I expect only one attack, however that translates into
weapons expended. 

And, an extra attack against each fleeing squadron bothers me even more;
I'd rather be able to take multiple shots at the juicy, say
torpedo-laden, birds, which seems even more reasonably doable than
swinging attacks against several retreating targets.

But, again, I'm lost, don't play with fighters oft, and need to
re-re-read the associated sections.

Thanks for the reply, Eric! 

I've been talking myself into trying BSG battles, and obviously will
have to figure out fighters there.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Foley [mailto:stiltman@teleport.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:01 PM
To: gzg@firedrake.org
Subject: Re: [FT] Yet another question about fighters...

Well, here's the flaw in this reasoning:  if you're not allowed to shoot
back if you've already taken a free shot in a turn at a disengaging
enemy, this effectively means that taking that free shot means you're
giving up another free shot to whoever else may be lurking.  If that's
the case, I'm going to get seriously tempted to leave some interceptors
lurking around the battle just to put it into my opponent's head that
maybe that free shot isn't such a good idea.

E

-----Original Message-----
>From: Douglas Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
>Sent: Aug 5, 2012 8:48 AM
>To: "gzg@firedrake.org" <gzg@firedrake.org>
>Subject: [FT] Yet another question about fighters...
>
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>Jon, just in case you're not following the Yahoo group discussion, I'm
the Doug.
>
>Yahoo 'Full Thrust' Group
>Re: Fighter vs Fighter
>
>I would say that is one 'free round' not a free round per disengaging
group.
>Does that mean you can shoot regularly in dogfight AND at disengaging
groups?
>
>Actually, I'd say no. In every discussion I've seen that included Jon, 
>I got the impression it was 'free round' just because you got to shoot,

>but not fear a response shot.
>
>Until Jon sez different, I suppose you'll play as you read it, and I as

>I've understood it.
>
>Doug
>
>--- In 
>FullThrust@yahoogroups.com<http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FullThru
>st/post?postID=vf_uFJMP_pmAEAGDep-psDiHCHUK-MpTmX1cqiuycted54jUErXCCrjM
>SRF3LM0mlcVhMHMkyqZ7oJz07w64ynaqI0s>, "johnlunderwoodjr" 
><johnlunderwoodjr@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Adam, what throws me that in the disengagement section it says

>> FREE
>round of attacks. That tells me if its free it does not count against 
>this rule section.
>>
>> r/
>> John
>>
>> --- In
FullThrust@yahoogroups.com<http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FullThrus
t/post?postID=vf_uFJMP_pmAEAGDep-psDiHCHUK-MpTmX1cqiuycted54jUErXCCrjMSR
F3LM0mlcVhMHMkyqZ7oJz07w64ynaqI0s>, "Adam" <AJwargamer@> wrote:
>> > I checked on page 28 & 29 of Full Thrust Cross Dimension and found 
>> > under
>Multiple Group Dogfights:
>> >
>> > There will be cases, especially when fighters are screening larger 
>> > ships, where multiple group dogfight situations (known to fighter 
>> > pilots as `furballs') may occur. In such combats, all groups 
>> > engaged in the dogfight may fire only once per turn, but may choose

>> > to attack just one enemy group or to split
>their kills between two or more. If the player chooses to split fire, 
>the dice are rolled as normal and the casualties then divided as 
>equally as possible between the relevant groups.
>> >
>> > You could deduce that if a fighter group can split the kills during

>> > a
>multiple group dogfight but only rolling attack dice once,then they 
>should be able to split their kills between the two groups disengaging,

>again by rolling their attack dice once and distribute the kills 
>achieved as even as possible between the two disengaging groups...just
my thought.
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > --- In 
>> > FullThrust@yahoogroups.com<http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Full
>> > Thrust/post?postID=vf_uFJMP_pmAEAGDep-psDiHCHUK-MpTmX1cqiuycted54jU
>> > ErXCCrjMSRF3LM0mlcVhMHMkyqZ7oJz07w64ynaqI0s>, "johnlunderwoodjr" 
>> > <johnlunderwoodjr@>
>wrote:
>> > > Question: There is a furball of 3 fighter groups, 2 for side A 
>> > > and 1 for
>side B.
>> > > Side A decides to break off with both groups....
>> > > Does side B get a Free Round of attacks on each group as stated 
>> > > in the
>basic FT Rulebook?
>> > > My initial thought is yes, as it is a FREE round of attacks.
>> > > THANKS!!!
>> > > r/
>> > > John Underwood
>
>