RE: More future history questions - USA

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I find the idea of "the Empty Quarter" a little surprising.  LOTS of
mineral wealth and other resources.  Maybe few people, but New England
and The Foundry need Coal.

 
 
Michael Brown
Sheridan, WY
mwsaber6@msn.com




> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:54:00 +0000
> To: gzg@firedrake.org
> From: jon@gzg.com
> Subject: Re: More future history questions - USA
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> >Earlier than Jesusland, look for Ecotopia by Callenbach.
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Callenbach
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecotopia
> >
> >Another possible model: How about Vinge's "Bobble" landscape:
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peace_War
> >
> >Further down the road, but some interesting stuff there.
> 
> 
> Interesting stuff, as you say... following those links also led me to
this:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations_of_North_America
> 
> How relevant do folks think these thoughts (from a 1981 book) are to 
> the situation now and in the near future?
> 
> Jon (GZG)
> 
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
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> >> Richard Morgan had a similar split for the US. The Pacific Rim,
Eastern
> >> States and Jesus Land.
> >>
> >> It's been stated by other non finctional authors that many of the
middle
> >> states of the US would ahve 3rd world economies if it wasn't for
central
> >> government spending. How that will go with defence and NASA budget
cuts
> >>
> >> It's also been postulated about how the US would / could fall from
it's
> >> position as world number 1.
> >>
> >> Either scenarios like the EMP pulse from Dark Angel or a terroist
nuking
> >> like Babylon 5. Alternatively look at the American economy. They
are the
> >> worlds biggest debtor and the struggle to export and mounting
personal debt
> >> makes it harder for domestic consumption to get the economy out of
trouble.
> >> With the government struggling to balance it's books as well it's
hard to
> >> see where the economic stimulous will come from.
> >>
> >> The one thing that the US has going for it is that it is "too big
to fail"
> >> a failure by the US economy would have major impacts on their major
trading
> >> partners (nearly everyone) and so have ripple effects around the
world.
> >> People are far less likely to call in their loans on the US than
they might
> >> be on smaller countries like Greece..
> >>
> >> it will be intersting to see if Greece can get itself out of the
mess or
> >> whether it triggers a domino effect accross the Euro zone.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >F.P. Kiesche III "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book.
Always,
> >scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being
> >presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.)
> >Blogging at The Lensman's Children (
> >http://theeternalgoldenbraid.blogspot.com/).
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