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Re: More future history questions - USA

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:54:00 +0000
Subject: Re: More future history questions - USA

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>Earlier than Jesusland, look for Ecotopia by Callenbach.
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Callenbach
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecotopia
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>Another possible model: How about Vinge's "Bobble" landscape:
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peace_War
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>Further down the road, but some interesting stuff there.

Interesting stuff, as you say... following those links also led me to
this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations_of_North_America

How relevant do folks think these thoughts (from a 1981 book) are to 
the situation now and in the near future?

Jon (GZG)

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>On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM, John Tailby <john_tailby@xtra.co.nz>
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>>  Richard Morgan had a similar split for the US. The Pacific Rim,
Eastern
>>  States and Jesus Land.
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>>  It's been stated by other non finctional authors that many of the
middle
>>  states of the US would ahve 3rd world economies if it wasn't for
central
>>  government spending. How that will go with defence and NASA budget
cuts
>>
>>  It's also been postulated about how the US would / could fall from
it's
>>  position as world number 1.
>>
>>  Either scenarios like the EMP pulse from Dark Angel or a terroist
nuking
>>  like Babylon 5. Alternatively look at the American economy. They are
the
>>  worlds biggest debtor and the struggle to export and mounting
personal debt
>>  makes it harder for domestic consumption to get the economy out of
trouble.
>>  With the government struggling to balance it's books as well it's
hard to
>>  see where the economic stimulous will come from.
>>
>>  The one thing that the US has going for it is that it is "too big to
fail"
>>  a failure by the US economy would have major impacts on their major
trading
>>  partners (nearly everyone) and so have ripple effects around the
world.
>>  People are far less likely to call in their loans on the US than
they might
>>  be on smaller countries like Greece..
>>
>>  it will be intersting to see if Greece can get itself out of the
mess or
>>  whether it triggers a domino effect accross the Euro zone.
>>
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