Re: [GZG] Mixed Role Fighters (design system)

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Ryan Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>
> So, just for the sake of argument, what if you
> have a fighter system that's a full generation
> ahead of all of the other space-craft it's up
> against. Look at the F22 as an example. The
> Super-Bugs (F18) (gen 4.5) F-15s and F16s (Gen 4)
> have all had fits trying to get them in their
> gunsites, let alone shoo them down. So far as
> I've heard, ONE F-18 jock managed to get a kill
> shot by violating the ROE for the practice
> engagement which meant the F22 jock was probably
> trying to avoid a collision rather than kill the
> F18.
>
> In this case it would seem that the F22 is head
> and shoulders above everything else. At Red Flag
> the F22s got 144 kills with no kills on their own
> side.
>
[snip]
>
>
> I mean, can anyone see anyone succeeding against
> the US with Mig 17s or Mig 22s against F-22s?

Give it a few years when the USAF has to choose between buying spare
parts, or flying in peace time.  If things continue as they are going
now, the US may not even be able to build them without importing chips
from China, and inspecting chips for extra circuitry is actually quite
difficult.

Right now, the only way for MiG's to take down F22's is if the country
flying the MiG's has spent the same money on MiG's as the USAF has
spent on F22's.  The F22 may be good, but maintaining air superiority
at a rediculous inferiority in numbers against aircraft that spend
less time broken down and don't need paved runways is probably
impossible if the MiG's can strike at the F22's bases.	Three hundred
and sixty-one million dollars (per F22) buys an aweful lot of MiG's.
That much money even buys multiple USAF aircraft of lesser
capabilities.  If a lot more are built, the costs come down to
something approaching reasonable (possibly as low as $140 million),
but mass purchases of MiG's drops their prices, too.

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