Re: [GZG] Grossly Off-topic ANZAC Whining, was Re: [OFFICIAL] GZG: FREEBIE OFFER FOR BFPO/APO TROOPS!
From: "Owen Glover" <oglover@b...>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:28:36 +1000
Subject: Re: [GZG] Grossly Off-topic ANZAC Whining, was Re: [OFFICIAL] GZG: FREEBIE OFFER FOR BFPO/APO TROOPS!
Er, what has this got to do with GZG gaming? If there was left some
comments
for relevance this might be understandable.....
Why the direct obscenity?
I think you should get over yourself......
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
> [mailto:gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu] On Behalf
> Of John Atkinson
> Sent: Saturday, 26 July 2008 6:35 PM
> To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: [GZG] Grossly Off-topic ANZAC Whining,was Re:
> [OFFICIAL] GZG: FREEBIE OFFER FOR BFPO/APO TROOPS!
>
>
> <snip>
>
> Lots of whine, whine, whine.
>
> OK, you Aussies and Canucks can shut the fuck up now and get
> over yourselves.
>
> The US has 150,000 troops in Iraq and 32,000 in Afghanistan,
> more or less. The UK has roughly 6,000 but that's changing,
> plus another 8,500 in Afghanistan. Georgia (the Republic
> that most folks couldn't find on a map) has over 2,000 men in Iraq.
>
> In raw numbers, the Poles (2,300 in Iraq, 1,100 in
> Afghanistan) are about even with you all combined, are in a
> more dangerous sector, fight harder, and get far less credit
> in the American public's eyes or media attention.
>
> For percentage of your military deployed, you're behind such
> major powers as Tonga, most of whose Marine Corps guards the
> al-Faw Palace.
>
> Canadians. . . pulling your share? Your military is
> undersized compared to either your population or your economy
> (normal for NATO nations other than the US--since we
> subsidize your national security), and the 2,500 men in
> Afghanistan is less than the Germans and on a par with the Italians.
>
> Aussies? Used to be roughly the same contribution as South
> Korea, 850 men counting all sorts of support and HQ folks.
> But all but roughly 300 have been withdrawn as of 02 JUN 08,
> and what's left are largely headquarters and support folks.
> 1,100 are in Afghanistan counting air traffic controllers and
> so forth.
>
> For comparison, Denmark is smaller than most American states
> (and some counties in Texas) and has 690 men in Afghanistan.
>
> As for credit, you don't think you get any? The only way
> American Soldiers get noticed is by getting killed or by
> misbehaving badly enough to get arrested. The state of your
> average American's knowledge of actions in Iraq or
> Afghanistan is pretty minimal. It is largely formed by older
> news stories (I needn't cite the studies showing media
> coverage dropping off in the past two years) which were at
> best slanted, and at worst utterly fictional. Case in point
> would be the so-called "massacre" in Haditha, where as it
> turns out, the only source used in the initial media
> reporting was an al-Qaeda in Iraq operative. The reporter
> refused to even interview any member of the Marine Corps or
> visit the base before running the story. Compare the number
> of stories run on SFC Paul Smith vs. the number of stories
> run on some stupid photos of a Reservist prision guard PFC.
>
> If your nation is fighting for good press in the United
> State's mainstream media, you need to switch sides and start
> killing US troops, because that's the only people the MSM
> really supports.
>
> John
> --
> "Thousands of Sarmatians, Thousands of Franks, we've slain
> them again and again. We're looking for thousands of
> Persians." --Vita Aureliani
>
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