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Re: [GZG] [OT] The myth of inevitable victory. (Was: [OT] Books (Weber/White/Meier) )

From: "John Atkinson" <johnmatkinson@g...>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:00:02 +0300
Subject: Re: [GZG] [OT] The myth of inevitable victory. (Was: [OT] Books (Weber/White/Meier) )

I find it hysterical that I have to argue both for the ability to beat
an insurgency AND that having a big economy doesn't guarantee victory

Am I the only one that doesn't find that to be just a little bit ironic?


On 7/22/08, Robert N Bryett <> wrote:
> An excellent book on the hindsight-based myth of inevitable Allied
> victory in WW2 is the oddly-titled "Why The Allies Won" by Richard
> Overy.
> I have never been a soldier, and I don't even play one on TV, so I'm
> in a poor position to comment on generalship on the battlefield. When
> it comes to the military and civil management of all the human and
> material resources needed to fight a modern war, I don't think
> there's much doubt that the Axis powers were comprehensively "out-
> generalled". There's a huge difference between potential resources
> and effective ones, and had the Allied powers used their resources as
> inefficiently as the Axis ones did theirs, the result could have been
> very different.
> Just take a look at a map showing the territory (with its associated
> potential resources), controlled by the Axis powers at the end of
> 1942. And ask yourself if any rational observer *at* *the* *time*
> would have regarded total Allied victory in less than three years as
> inevitable.
> I'm with Atkinson on this. Resources don't guarantee victory; you
> have to fight effectively too.
> Best regards, Robert Bryett
> On 21/07/2008, at 14:46 , John Atkinson wrote:
>> On 7/21/08, Richard Bell <> wrote:
>>> In many ways the issue was never in doubt for WWII.  Once the USA
>>> involved, it was merely a matter of expending the resources.
>> That is some serious 20/20 hindsight.
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