Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

TomB wrote:

>John Atkinson made me think (not a new thing) about how one should 
>represent things like the Buffalo, Nyala, Gelandenwagen and various
other 
>sorts of uparmoured, IED and small arms resistant vehicles in SG2 and
DS2.

Vehicles with high Signature ratings, probably Armour/2 or thereabouts
on 
front, sides and rear, and Armour/4+ on the bottom. (No, that's not
legal 
in vanilla SG2/DS2. It is perfectly legal in DS3 :-) )

Oh, and the models have to be ugly as hell, too :-P

>I'm guessing an IED (typical) might be D12 impact vs. armour.

That's one of the smaller road-side IEDs. Buried mines would generally
be 
more powerful (not least because they're closer to the target when they
go 
off).

>Hits are probably automatic for command detonated ones (wire
connection).

Nope. There are plenty of examples where command-detonated mines were 
triggered a fraction of a second too early (or too late) and thus failed
to 
damage the target.

>Bigger ones could be used. I'll assume the one used in the Palestinian 
>area to pulverize a Merkava was a lot larger (even through the weaker 
>bottom armour).

IIRC those were estimated to have been somewhere around ~100 kg of
explosives.

>If the IED does not penetrate, it should have a higher than standard 
>chance to score non-penetrating suspension hits (aka M-kills).

Only if they're buried under the road. Road-side ones would use the same

damage table as normal weapons.

>  I'm not sure what a fair % might be - John, Oerjan, anyone?

The easiest would be to replace all Systems Down results with Damaged if

the vehicle has 4 or fewer wheels, and ignore Systems Down entirely if
it 
has 6+ wheels. Many mine-resistant vehicles are surprisingly good at
moving 
even after losing a wheel or two.

>I'm also not sure how often you'd get Firer Systems Down or other 
>firecontrol effects from an IED.

Quite often if it is triggered by mobile phones or similar and the
would-be 
victims have the proper ECM gear, or it is triggered by wires the
would-be 
victims can detect... :-/

Regards,

Oerjan
orjan.ariander1@comhem.se

"Life is like a sewer.
  What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it."
-Hen3ry

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