Re: [GZG] GW and Re: Artillery considerations (was: Re: Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi!)

>Andy,
>
>Your issue with the GW take on collecting is somethign that has 
>formed over the years with collecting in all forms. Originally 
>things were collected, because people collected them. Now things are 
>made to be collected. It is the speculative collection and 
>artificial colelctibility that GW (among others) is hoping to tap 
>into. The idea is to convince people that you stuff is collectible 
>or to produce it with artificial rarity to generate/stimulate 
>collector interest.
>
>-Eli

I think that these days "collectable" (or "collectible", never quite 
sure which is right myself...) has two rather different meanings. In 
some cases - as in "Collectable Card Game" it means having to buy 
lots of packets of stuff "blind" in the hope of getting the 
particular items you want to complete a set (as opposed to the 
"non-collectable card game", which has everything in  the one pack). 
The other meaning, as GW and their ilk use it, is simply in the sense 
of "buy everything we make so you can say you've "collected" the full 
set"...

I think these days a "collector" is often simply someone who buys 
lots of stuff and KEEPS it, rather than chucking it away!  ;-)

Jon (GZG)

>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Andy Skinner <andyskinner@rcn.com>
>
>>  I didn't expect to post anything to this or related threads, 
>>because I'm kinda
>>  hoping they'll go away, but ...
>>
>>  I've wondered this, too. They talk about "collecting", which is 
>>what we do when
>>  we see a figure and imagine a way it might go with an army we have,
or look
>>  around for some interesting conversion-fodder to make what we want.
It is
>>  rummaging is discount bins, etc.
>>
>>  But any GW store I've been in has exactly the same stuff as any
other or the
>>  online store, at the same prices. What GW calls "collecting", seems
to me to
>>  just be "buying". Maybe it becomes a hobby just because you can't
afford to
>>  just buy what you want, so you have to approach it strategically.
>>
>>  I'm not an ti-GW. I've got various stuff from them, and actually 
>>want to play
>>  their LotR game, and use some figures in other games. (I don't like
their
>>  devotion to special rules for figures--I just can't keep up.) But
the "GW
>>  Hobby" and their take on collecting puzzle me.
>>
>>  andy
>>
>>
>>  ---- Original message ----
>>  >Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:09:51 -0400
>>  >From: Ryan Gill
>>  >Subject: Re: [GZG] GW and Re: Artillery considerations (was: Re:
Help me,
>>  Obi-Wan Kenobi!)
>>  >To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
>>  >
>>  >So buying games workshop stuff is a hobby in and of itself?
>>
>>
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