Re: [GZG] [Real World] Russian Mig 29 shoots down Georgian UAV
From: Oerjan Ariander <orjan.ariander1@c...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:21:31 +0200
Subject: Re: [GZG] [Real World] Russian Mig 29 shoots down Georgian UAV
Sylvester Wrzesinski wrote:
> >Whose airspace was it? If it wasn't Georgian they don't have any
>Assuming enough time and aireal recon, one could probably ID the
>of coast that is in the footage to some degree of certanty. There's
>a small portion of coast it could be, realistically.
Abkhazian airspace... which in Georgian eyes means "Georgian" in a
way as many Serbs still consider Kosovar airspace "Serbian" :-/
> >Is it standard procedure for jet fighters to attack airborne targets
> >from the front?
When the target is very small, unarmed, *very* slow-moving compared to
jet fighter, and its heat signature is pretty much the same all around,
there's not very much difference between the various approach angles...
>Okay, without knowing the exact model of UAV,
It was a Hermes 450, yes.
>That beign said, it seemed damn ballsy to do it. The missile might be a
>bit of overkill, but assuming that they wanted it down quick and for
>sure, it's the best way to do it.
Small, slow-moving targets are very difficult for a fast-moving fighter
engage with guns...
> >Is it possible the owners of the airspace had Russian aircraft?
Abkhazia has no "real" fighters, no. They do have a few trainer jets
Aero L-39s IIRC) that can be armed, but they don't look anything like
fighter seen in that video :-/
Photos of Hermes 450, Aero L-39 and Mig-29 (the comments are a week out
FWIW the Russians are involved in Abkhazia in roles similar to NATO in
Kosovo, ie. peace-keeping and enforcing no-fly zones for the former
power. Unfortunately they don't seem to have defined exactly where those
no-fly zones are though...
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