Re: [GZG] Question about comment

In desert storm, one of the first aircraft lost was a
F/A 18 on a strike mission. The navy admits the A6E
would be better at strike and F14 would guard them in
better fasion. Sad they were not availible in good
numbers due to need for multi-duty aircraft.

--- Richard Bell <rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com> wrote:

> The F/A-18 has never flown in hostile skies, so
> there is no real
> record of air-to-air losses.	It has flown over
> hostile territory, but
> that is not the same thing.  What it does point out
> is that we have
> yet to produce a true multi-ability craft, as even
> an F-15E Strike
> Eagle is a very poor dogfighter when loaded for
> ground attack; even if
> it does have a full complement of air-to-air
> missiles.
> 
> A fighter that was heavily armored, with long range,
> equipped with
> heavy anti-ship ordnance and the anti-fighter
> weapons would be more
> expensive than we can readily imagine.  So far, no
> one has tried to
> make such an aircraft.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/10/06, Glenn Wilson
> <glenn-wilson-1950@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Message: 4 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:29:54 -0800
> (PST) From: Charles Lee
> > Subject: Re: [GZG]
> [FT]Multi-abilityfightercostings To:
> > gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu Message-ID:
> > <532283.1468.qm@web51313.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset=iso-8859-1	Please look at the cost of the
> F18 Hornet. It doesn't
> > carry long range AA Missles of the F14 nor the
> bomb load of the A6 or even
> > the survivability of the lesser ohf the two. It
> can't jam radar without add
> > on bomb pac loads. The pilots don't win the world
> contests either as they
> > are expected to do all jobs with a minimal
> training and little practice.
> > What they do well is ..... well fly and die in
> face of specialized forces.
> >
> > My reply:
> >
> > I would like to see some numbers on when the
> F/A-18 has suffered the kind of
> > losses suggested here...
> >
> > The F/A-18 is the last choice of the main line
> USAF/USN fighters introduced
> > from the 1907's until today in my mind (F16, F15
> and then (retired) F14 for
> > me if I don't consider the F-22 since it still is
> 'new kid on the block'
> > status.)  But this plane seems to do adequately in
> real life if not the my
> > personal favorite.	The failure to replace the A6
> with a specialised attack
> > aircraft seems to be driven by economic reasons
> (training, spare parts,
> > etc.) pushing doctrine and the F/A-18's ability to
> deliver the Air to
> > Sea/Mud payloads gives the USN a chance to see if
> their theories actually
> > will work in combat.  Assuming the plane is not
> retired before an adequate
> > 'test' occurs...
> >
> >
> > Gracias,
> >
> >   Glenn Wilson
> >
> >
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