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Re: [GZG] RE: Aus/NZ arms manufacture

From: "james mitchell" <tagalong@s...>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:15:03 +0930
Subject: Re: [GZG] RE: Aus/NZ arms manufacture

HI guy's, us Australian's, did build own own tank, in ww2, called the 
sentinel, mk's 1,2,and 3.The armaments we 2, 6 and 25 pounder, and a 
flamethrower variant.
The tank hull was one single cast, and the turrent was a single cast
is, very hard for Australian manufacturer's to do back then, for our
manufactureing industry was just starting to make our own car' we
were not tooled for this type of vechicle.
We only made 66 unit's of this tank, and was reported to have never seen

front line service in the Pacific threatre.

So I would say that retooling for a military vechicle wouldnt be any
than releaseing a new family sedan,.
We do make our own light armoured troop vechicle the Bushmaster and we
modify the Lav 25, to our condition's.

But N.A.C  or N.S.L  would seem to be where the OU would by there big
and gear from.

But your gear is always supplied by the lowest bidder!

james m

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh Fisher" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: [GZG] RE: Aus/NZ arms manufacture

> At 8:56 AM +1000 23/8/06, <> wrote:
>>>  Neither NZ or Australia is likely to have the capability to
>>>  manufacture arms in the next 50 years so they would need
>>>  to buy them from somewhere. Historic links suggest their
>>>  gear might will be Anglican.
>>What kind of arms are you talking about? We're developing new weapons
>>the time so I find that statement a bit odd.
> The world seems to have entered a phase where some kinds
> of high-tech weapons are cheap as chips.
> There were stories all over the Internet, some of them
> even well-documented, about the guy in New Zealand who
> built his own cruise missile. The government decided to
> take it away from him.
> Students in the Engineering faculty next door to me at
> university build UAVs. At the end of each year students
> put up posters about the work they've been doing. One
> group put cameras on the UAV, low-light ones IIRC, for
> tracking wildlife. Another group had done a feasibility
> study of launching air-to-ground missiles from it!
> Battle tanks are a bit harder, sure. But if Israel and
> Sweden can build their own, Australia could probably
> manage.
> The big-iron items, warships and high performance jets,
> seem likely to remain restricted to major industrial
> powers. Unlike everything else, they are becoming more
> and more expensive and difficult to make.
> And the do-it-yourself UAVs and cruise missiles rely
> on high performance CPUs which have become incredibly
> difficult to manufacture. There's only about four or
> five foundries in the world that could build a Pentium
> 4 chip, and they cost billions of dollars to set up.
> Yet just about anyone can obtain one if they have a
> few hundred $US.
> Extrapolating to GZG, I imagine ship hulls and engines
> to be fabulously expensive and valuable, so never ever
> get junked. Old NAC/ESU/FSE/NSL hulls end up being
> sold to lesser powers, where they are extensively
> refitted with new electronics and software. Most of
> the budget in such navies probably goes to welding
> the hulls back together when they start to leak too
> much.
> cheers,
> Hugh
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