Re: White Wolf to charge game fees...
From: Sylvester Wrzesinski <xveers@g...>
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:46:52 -0700
Subject: Re: White Wolf to charge game fees...
Rrok Anroll wrote:
>I really think everyone needs to chill out and sit back and watch what
>happpens.... White Wolf could prove to be very reasonable in their
>treatment of events....
I'll take a pill myself, thanks, but I'll still toss out my two cents
(this kinda rankles me on a base level)...
The largest problem with their entire contract (questionable legality as
a base aside) is the lack of clarification regarding those who charge in
order to run a game. While I cannot support their decision on moral
grounds, I am certian their initial intention was to make those who
charged above and beyond a reasonable fee for space/prop rental and
snackage in-situ. In other words they don't mind if you decide to hold a
LARP session in a local hall so long as the only money you're collecting
is to cover the actual rental of the hall. That in and of itself dosen't
constitute a challenge to their IP or their copyright (since you're not
profiting off the fees).
However, should you choose to charge extra above hall rental (for your
august presence running this mess) then you'd be profiting off their IP
and they'd want a cut like any good mobster.
But no, it's amazingly vauege.
As well, another facet is that of public/private preformances IE where
does LARPing fall into? Obviously if one is holding it in one's
basement, than it's private. But if one is renting out a hall, then does
that not constitute a public event? Actually, there are ways to run an
event in a public space and still class it as private. An anime club I
was associated with ran anime showcases of various tv shows. As the
licencing restrictions for the shows and movies specifically prohibited
public viewing, what they did was they rented out a small hall in a
college, and then allowed people to purchase the effect of a one-day
membership. The viewing room itself was then designated a private,
members only screening. Proceeds from the one-day memberships and a
small concession inside the viewing theatre were then put towards the
rental, and the purchase of fresh supplies for next month's concession.
As well, one could purchase a $20 membership good for a full year and
providing free entry. As there were several 'full day' showings that ran
from midafternoon till midnight (normal ending time was around 8pm),
considerable savings could be achieved by this method for the attendee.
The exact legality (as far as this mechanism skirted copyright) is
certianly playing to the letter and not the spirit of the law. This
being said, this showcase was being done when japanese animation was in
it's infancy in north america, and served well to increase the
popularity and the breadth of anime types that were brought over to
north america and thus did much to increase the fanbase to such a degree
that it helped make anime a viable large-scale commercial market by
showing new series to those already in the subculture, as well as
exposing new fans to the subculture. It should be noted that A) this
showcase system had been in place for 10+ years, and has as of about 9
months previous been ended due to dropping attendance and the increasing
prevalance of anime in commercial stores for purchase/rental, B) had at
the very least a tact approval of some industry bigwigs like Jerry Chu
of Bandai... or was that AD Vision (these companies have a significant
portion of the actual broadcast/distribution rights in north america,
and Jerry was one of the corporate VPs... yes, we did know him
personally!) and C) served to increase the fanbase significantly and
keep those in the fanbase from drifting off (IE keeping customers for
the distributors to sell product to!)
Alternatively, one could simply state that you are running a micro-con
every month, with only one game being offered...