Re: Full Thrust vs Starmada

Ok, fair enough.  But is that necessarily a Bad Thing (tm)?

So, one thing that I would do, had I both time and energy ( ;) ) would
be 
to compare that statement with popular sci fi.	No one attacked the Star

Destroyers in Star Wars with *fighters*.  They kind of went after each 
other, and were a nuisance, but there was no evidence that the fighters 
were a threat to the SD.  Now, OTOH, in Battlestar Galactica, the
fighers 
are a threat.  But how large of a capitol ship is a Battlestar, or Cylon

carrier?  And how loaded are they with PDS?  In Star Blazers fighters
were 
a threat, but I'd have to wonder if the Yamato was a *large* capitol
ship, 
or maybe a FT equivalent of a CR.

I'll grant that having 6 PDS could easily make a ship invulerable to 
fighters.  I'll only stipulate that if that is *appropriate to the FT 
unvierse*, then it a) does solve the problem of fighters being worth too

much, and b) works within the confines of the system.

<shrug>

J

John K. Lerchey
Computer and Network Security Coordinator
Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Grant A. Ladue wrote:

>
>  Hi John,
>
>    I think the problem with this approach is that it makes ships with
6 to 8
>  pds completely immune to the fighters.  On average, 6 pds will kill
slightly
>  more than 4 fighters at a crack, so each 6 fighter group is getting
gutted in
>  the first run.
>
>
>   grant
>
>
>>
>> Hm.	Grants post leads me to a question.  OO will certainly know if
this
>> has been attempted, or if it would even work, but here goes.
>>
>> So, part of the problem as I've been reading it is that a large
number of
>> fighter groups can overwhelm the PDS and take out even a fairly
powerful
>> ship.  So, what if each fighter group was engaged by EACH PDS on the
ship,
>> and each attacked individually?  Yes, this puts some extra strain on
>> fighter groups attacking larger vessels, but so what?  I haven't
looked at
>> the PDS rules in a while, and my book is at home.  But if the PDS
does
>> *damage* to the fighter group, as opposed to "score a hit, kill the
>> group", then each pass of PDS will reduce the fighter group
(potentially),
>> and only on ships with LOTs of PDS, will they have a good chance at
>> eliminating each entire group as they come in.  And if you do it
>> serially...
>>
>> fighter group A attacks, PDS attempts to take them out, remaining
fighters
>> hit the ship.
>> ...
>> fighter group B attacks, PDS attempts to take them out, remaining
fighters
>> hit the ship.
>> ...
>> repeat until all fighter groups are done...
>>
>> ... then the fighters (survivors) have a shot of doing some damage to
the
>> ships, and possibley forcing threshold checks and taking out the PDS,
>> leaving the ship a sitting duck.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> John K. Lerchey
>> Computer and Network Security Coordinator
>> Computing Services
>> Carnegie Mellon University
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