Re: Spoon Feeding WWII Genre to players was --> Re: GenCon Plans Anyone?

On 07 Aug 2002 10:36:59 -0400, Flak Magnet
<flakmagnet@tabletop-battlezone.com> wrote:

>Note how the "work" has been done in converting the forces over into
>WH40K.  If a substandard <CENSORED> piece of <CENSORED> game like
>WarHammer 40<CENSORED>K can get that much work put into making it
>approachable to historical players, why can't DSII and SGII?

Note that this is essentially the same thing as is happening in
roleplaying.
The dominant game system is being ported over to other "universes". In
roleplaying it's the D20 system (a _Call of Cthulhu_ book came out not
so long
ago, and this week they just released the CoC Keeper's pack). In
miniatures it
is Warhammer. Warhammer ancients has been out for a while (and has three
supplements!). Warhammer for the English Civil War just came out
recently.

These products (based on the older 3rd Edition of Warhammer) is to be
praised.
They make fun, if not stunningly accurate, games, and they introduce
players
to historicals. It's a great idea. After all, once you have your
historical
army painted up you can always use other game systems.

> It's just that the work
>isn't as complete and comprehensive as the site I mentioned above.

Andy O'Neil did a good job of converting SG2 to WW2, but I don't agree
with
some of the changes he made. IMHO he went a little past the "look and
feel" of
SG2 in places. 

I've done my own conversion of SG2, creating _Hardtack_, rules for the
American Civil War. However, I'm thinking about leaving them as a
Stargrunt II
"plug-in", while creating my own set of stand alone rules from what I've
already done. This is the issue with converting a sci-fi/fantasy game to
historicals: there are some things that just don't work right for the
historical situation. I'm going to replace the combat system and other
mechanics in SG2 with my own system. I haven't decided yet if I'll
actually
consider publishing them...

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