Re: REALITY CHECK TIME! - vehicle bail out morale tests in Stargrunt

Hi Dawgie,

>is there anyone here on this list, that really believes, rules or no
>rules, that if an APC or IFV sucks up a  serious hit (serious-not
>catastropic), that the grunts in the back ARE NOT GONNA KNOW ABOUT
>IT???????????????????

Of course not.	But it wasn't a question of whether or not the grunts
will
*know* about the hit, but what the rules say about what they do about
it?
Tom was asking what happens to the squad if the IFV crew bails.

In the specific example that started the thread, the vehicle in question
(an APC) sucked a guided missile which did not penetrate the armour, and
hence there were no casualties to the occupants.  Using the "non
penetrating hits on vehicles" rules, it was determined that the vehicle
(a
GEV) suffered an "immobilization" - the lift fans were damaged, or
whatever.  That result forces an immediate Confidence test for the crew
to
avoid bailing.	The crew failed, and jumped out, even though the *only*
game effect damage to the vehicle was that it stopped moving.  At the
time,
the vehicle was carrying a squad of infantry.  I believe what happened
was
that the crew failed its test, but the infantry squad passed theirs, and
stayed in the vehicle.	The rules say that the occupants, including
passengers "if appropriate", have to make the Confidence test.

We were wondering if the squad would automatically jump out if the crew
did, and whether the Confidence tests should be separate, or whatever. 
If
separate, then it would make sense that the crew bailing should have an
effect on the difficulty of the test the squad should make.  As someone
else pointed out, if the squad sees the vehicle crew jump, it's going to
motivate them to do the same thing.  If the tests are NOT separate, then
whose leadership/quality do you use to test the morale - the crew or the
squad?

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Adrian Johnson
adrian@stargrunt.ca
http://www.stargrunt.ca