Re: small powers

Tomb wrote:

 >2) Here's the approach I'd take in setting up a power. Find out the
 >links to Indy's fleet pages
 >http://www.bcpl.net/~indy/full-thrust/fleet-rosters.html
 >- this'll give you an idea of how many
 >points are tied up in a first rate power's forces. Assume your power
is
 >not even second or third rate, but somewhere around 4th if it is to be
 >"beneath radar". That, to my mind, suggests a fleet of no more than
 >(since it is three degrees lower) 1/8th the size of a major powers
 >fleet, and quite plausibly as small as 1/64th the size.
 >
 >Indy, have some numbers of gross points for ESU and NAC?

I'm not Indy and I probably missed some ships (which is why I've rounded
the
figures), but I count:

ESU: 1069 ships (139 capitals, 232 cruisers, 621 escorts, 77 scouts) and
203
fighter squadrons*; total TMF ~49000, total NPV ~170000

NAC: 931 ships (131 capitals, 312 cruisers, 473 escorts, 15 scoutships)
and
197 fighter squadrons*; total TMF ~50000, total NPV ~173000

FSE: 840 ships and 112 fighter squadrons (82 capitals, 213 cruisers, 495
escorts, 50 scoutships) and 112 fighter squadrons*; total TMF ~41000,
total
NPV ~139000

NSL: 780 ships (119 capitals (15 CVAs?!?), 203 cruisers, 434 escorts, 24
scouts) and 123 fighter squadrons; total TMF ~40000, total NPV ~137000

* Local-defence fighter squadrons based on planets or in orbital
facilities
have not been included in these figures.

Corresponding data for John Atkinson's NRE (unless he's changed it very
recently): 738 ships (108 capitals, 204 cruisers, 408 escorts) and 190
fighter squadrons*; total TMF 42222, total NPV ~144000 (depends a bit on
the
exact mix of fighter types). However, since John doesn't list any of his
scoutships or corvettes in the OOB (although he *does* give stats for
them 
in the Jane's section) these numbers are probably a bit low. (This was
the 
background to my recent jab about "four-planet colony powers with fleets

that out-mass the entire l'Astromarine :-) )

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