RE: [DS] Models representing GMS's and SLAM's

HELs - short tubes (Boxy bases?)
     - Normal barrels or short/no barrels.
DFFG - combustion chamber at base of tube and the 
       tube should show the magnetic (?) forces 
       containing the fused material until it leaves 
       the tube?
     - Short barrel.
HVC  - Externally a lot like today's AFV guns
     - Any barrel.
HKP  - perhaps thinner tubes?
     - Usually longer, thinner barrel.
MDC  - possibly 'finned' tubes (might be very small at 6mm)
     - Thick barrel (to hold magnets/grav projectors).
GMS  - Single or multiple tubes. A SLAM-style pack could 
       hold multiple GMS. Also GMS could fire vertically,
       so there may not be a tube (tube in hull under 
       flipper hatch).
SLAM - Multiple, grouped tubes. A minimum of 6 tubes. 
       6-10 tubes: size-3, 11-16: size-4, >16: size-5.
       But since this is the future, you could use a
       single large tube that drops cluster munitions.

001 (HVC?)		 MDC
001a (Double HKP?)	 2xRFAC or 2xHKP
001e (MDC/4 or 5?)	 HKP
001f (DFFG?)		 DFFG or Large MDC
002 (MDC/2?)		 RFAC
002b (SLAM?)		 GMS
003 (A mixed turret!?)	 HVC & TAG or HVC & HEL
003a (SLAM?)		 GMS
006 (MDC?)		 HKP
006c (HVC?  DFFG?)	 DFFG, MDC
006d (SLAM?)		 GMS
006f  (GMS?)		 SLAM or GMS
007a (RFAC?)		 RFAC or light HVC
007b (GMS/L?)		 GMS
009a (?)		 RFAC
009b (DFFG/1 or 2?)	 RFAC
009c (GMS?)		 GMS
009d (GMS or SLAM?)	 SLAM (or GMS)
011 (Double SLAM's?)	 2xGMS (or light SLAM)
012 (RFAC/1 or 2?)	 RFAC or HVC
012a (DFFG2 and a GMS?)  HVC or DFFG

But really do what you think works. I find that depending
on the game HVC/HKP/MDC are quite interchangeable and 
so are RFAC/MDC for size 1-2.

-----
Brian Bell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn M Wilson [mailto:triphibious@juno.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 23:00
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: [DS] Models representing GMS's and SLAM's

I couldn't find it in the archives (yet) but I remember (always IIRC)
someone of the list someone posted on how the DS2 weapons systems should
look:

In my own restated understanding:

HELs - short tubes (Boxy bases?)
DFFG - combustion chamber at base of tube and the tube should show the
magnetic (?) forces containing the fused material until it leaves the
tube?
HVC - Externally a lot like today's AFV guns
HKP - perhaps thinner tubes?
MDC - possibly 'finned' tubes (might be very small at 6mm) 

Now for the question - How do you represent SLAMs and GMSs?

My original thought was it might be GMSs were like the Dutch APC (?)
from
GHQ with a mount above the top of the vehicle, or mounts like the navy
uses where the launcher tips up, the reloads move onto the 'business
end'
and then the mount returns to a slanted 'firing position' for the next
round of launches?  Am I making myself clear?  I consider a short cherry
picker mounting also.  The key being that the missiles can'r be all
external (well, shouldn't) unless the average GMS vehicle's survival is
like escorts in the battle line in FT [shoot - die] and since the idea
that it was *not* mounted on a turret until I joined this list had not
been something I considered!  

So, how do /you/ represent GMS launchers on AFV's in DS2?

Likewise, SLAM's.  In 1/72nd I could steal rocket packs off helicopter
and strike model kits for SLAMs for 15mm vehicles but how about 6mm, how
do you represent these?

What brought this up was looking at Brigade's beautiful pictures of
their
1/300th AFV's.	Specifically (prefacing all with SFV-):

002b (SLAM?)
003a (SLAM?)
006d (SLAM?)
006f  (GMS?)
007b (GMS/L?)
009c (GMS?)
009d (GMS or SLAM?)
011 (Double SLAM's?)

BTW, their site is www.brigademodels.co.uk but most of you probably
already knew that...

While you're there, look at 

001 (HVC?)
001a (Double HKP?)
001e (MDC/4 or 5?)
001f (DFFG?)
002 (MDC/2?)
003 (A mixed turret!?)
006 (MDC?)
006c (HVC?  DFFG?)
007a (RFAC?)
009a (?)
009b (DFFG/1 or 2?)
012 (RFAC/1 or 2?)
012a (DFFG2 and a GMS?)

Feedback and differing opinions welcome.

Gracias,
Glenn/Triphibious
This is my Science Fiction Alter Ego E-mail address.

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