Re: [FT] Comments on Glenn's aliens
From: Shawn M Mininger <smininger@y...>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:46:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [FT] Comments on Glenn's aliens
If I remember correctly, you have to have a dedicated
Fire Control PER Needle Beam
--- Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au> wrote:
> G'day Glenn,
>
> I'm sure Oerjan will have more to say on the
> subject, but here's a few
> thoughts I had.
>
> >I sat down with FT2 and sketched out the
> weaponry...
>
> Sorry I've never played FT before FB so can't
> comment there.
>
> NEKTONS
> >Alternate <Mass 20 FF>
> >Weak Hull 4 boxes
> >FTL
> >Drive 6
> >1 firecon
> >NBx3
> >PDS
>
> Can't remember the Needle Beam FC requirements off
> the top of my head, but
> I have a feeling this combo of Needles and FC is
> going to restrict you to
> potentially killing one system very dead....was this
> a redundancy thing you
> actually wanted to build in?
>
> >This is a first cut, please let me
> >known if I made any math or rule
> >errors.
>
> Haven't got time to check your math unfortunately,
> but the idea doesn't
> seem to bad, though some of your BDNs and up may
> find it hard to actually
> get close enough to get decent to hit rolls. Do you
> play vector or
> cinematic by the way?
>
> WHISTLERS
> >"Mother Nest Ship"
> >200 Mass
> >Weak Hull 40 Boxes (Standard Hull version
> reported)
> >FTL
> >Drive 4
> >3 FCS
> >7 FTRs 3 Interceptor, 1 Fast, 1 Long Range, 2 Torp
> >ADFC
> >PDSx6
> >Level-1 screen
> >Armor 10
> >Class-1 x2
>
> Why 3FCs, is redundnacy a design feature you were
> actually after? I'd be
> tempted to drop it to one given the armament.
>
> >BB
> >140 mass Standard Hull 52 boxes (Nest version
> reported)
> >FTL
> >Drive 4
> >SML 1
> >SML MAG 1 - 4 ER Salvoes
> >SML 2
> >SML MAG 2 - 4 standard salvoes
> >SML 3
> >SML MAG 3 - 4 ER salvoes
> >3 FCS
> >Class-2
>
> Firstly you're going to get good at judging
> placement with this ship ;)
> Secondly, once again why so many FCs? Off the top of
> my head I can't
> remember which are houserules and which standard
> rules, but as far as I
> recall you only need a functioning FC to fire all
> your SMLs (and they're
> still placed where you like).
>
> >BDN
> >Standard Hull 48 boxes
> >FTL Drive 4
> >2 FTR Bays (outfitted per mission from planet
> bases)
> >SML's 1 thru 3
> >SML MAG's 1 thru 3 - 3 standard salvoes each
> >2x PT
> >Class-1
>
> OK this one doesn't have an FC at all.... ;)
>
> >CVH
> >Mass 180
> >Weak Hull 54 boxes
> >FTL
> >Drive 4
> >10 FTR/Bays (3 Interceptors, 3 Torp, 1 Long range,
> 1 fast, ! heavy, 1
> >Standard)
> >PDSx8
> >3 FCS
> >2x Class-2
> >Class-1
>
> Once again 3 FC may be a little much.
>
> MERTUNS
>
> You may want to add an extra FC to some of the
> little guys (particularly
> the DH and FF), otherwise you may find their lack of
> flexibilty too
> constraining.....from one extreme to the other ;)
>
> >SDN
> >Mass 180
> >Average Hull 54 boxes
> >Armor 18
> >FTL
> >Drive 2
> >*5* FCS
> >PDSx9
> >Class-4, 5 arcs
> >3x Class-3, 5 arcs
> >2x Class-3, 3 arcs (side - angled to overlap in
> fore)
>
> OK why 5 FCS on this one? I thought I had the system
> worked out until this
> one popped up ;)
>
> >Starfish
> >Strong Hull 58 boxes
> >Armor 14
> >FTL
> >Drive 2
> >3 FCS
> >Screen-1
> >4x Class-3, 3 Arcs
> >PT, 3 arcs
> >PDSx4
>
> Flavour wise why introduce the PT here? Was it a
> "stolen" weapon or
> something? Just curious.
>
> KLACKONS
>
> >DD
> >35 mass
> >Strong Hull 14 boxes
> >FTL
> >Drive 6
> >*2* FCS.....
>
> I think your missing something here ;)
>
> >HC
> >84 mass
> >Strong Hull 34 boxes
> >Armor 6
> >Drive 6
> >3 FCS
> >2x Class-3, 5 arcs
> >PDSx4
>
> OK once again a bit heavy on the FCs. Unless
> redundancy is something these
> aliens are obsessed with I think they would've
> figured out the cost-benefit
> basis of FC:weapon allocation. I know you were
> trying to make them feel
> "non-human", but there are some things that will
> have a universal logic
> (at least in my opinion).
>
> >BC and up
>
> Once again I reckon they've got to many FCs < I bet
> you're sick of me
> saying that by now ;) >
>
> The ideas seem OK, just a bit of tweaking to do I
> reckon.
>
> Cheers
>
> Beth
>
>
>
>
>
=====
Thank You,
Shawn M Mininger
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