RE: Islamic Federation, was Re: [FT] OU & IC & FB3

I agree. The tug/tender rules need modification.

I do think that 10% is a little low however. If you build a FTL ship
with
the same equipment as a non-FTL ship (including same number of hull
boxes,
or 10% of ship mass, whichever is greater), you end up with a 12-30%
increase in point cost for the ships.

Here are some of Laserlight's IF ships as example:
Ship	      Non-FTL	  FTL	 % increase
		m/c	  m/c	 mass/points
Ahdath FF      20/72	 23/81	 15.0/12.5
ash Shaulah	8/30	 11/39	 37.5/30.0
Hasan as-Sabah 31/107	 37/125  19.3/16.8
Qaws CLG       60/212	 70/242  16.7/14.1
Saber CL       50/168	 58/192  16.0/14.2
Sala ed-Din DH 34/118	 40/136  17.6/15.2
Turcoman CL    50/172	 58/196  16.0/13.9
Turs DD        24/88*	 28/100  40.0/13.6

And take the following FB1 ships if converted
to non-FTL:
Ship	      Non-FTL	  FTL	 % 
		m/c	  m/c	 mass/points
Maximillian    87/294	100/333  13.0/13.2
Tsiolkovsky   129/519	150/584  16.3/12.5
Ark Royal     171/708	200/798  17.0/27.1
Foch	      216/805	250/909  15.7/12.9

The above averages to 16.33... % increase in points.
The amount varies with the mass taken up by the 
systems and engine in relation to overall mass.

I would think that 115% multiplier would be best for non-FTL ships
that do not have the tug on the table.

* Turs is listed at mass 24 cost 91, but is optimized at 24/88 (same
equipment and hull boxes).

-----
Brian Bell
bkb@beol.net
http://www.ftsr.org    
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oerjan Ohlson [SMTP:oerjan.ohlson@telia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:09 AM
> To:	gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject:	Re: Islamic Federation, was Re: [FT] OU & IC & FB3
> 
> Laserlight wrote:
> 
> >IF ships usually have:
> [snip]
> >- FTL only on capital units (increase points cost by 10% if fighting
a
> >one-off battle)
> 
> ...that's one more thing to look over: the tug/tender rules :-/
> 
> Side note: these +10% apply to *all* non-FTL ships, regardless of
their
> other equipment, so it's less of a problem than a Kra'Vak-specific
> -10%.
> 
> Later,
> 
> Oerjan Ohlson
> oerjan.ohlson@telia.com
> 
> "Life is like a sewer.
>   What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it."
> - Hen3ry