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Re: 15mm fig scans of Peter Pig miniatures

From: Andy Cowell <andy@c...>
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 19:43:41 -0600
Subject: Re: 15mm fig scans of Peter Pig miniatures

In message <200012050140.UAA18304@okura.cowell.org>, Andy Cowell writes:
> 
> I added some scans of bare metal Peter Pig Modern Africa and Sci-Fi
> 15mm miniatures that arrived today from Brookhurst Hobbies (which I
> ordered Friday, BTW-- one pack out of stock).  The Africa stuff looks
> pretty good, but the SF stuff is a bit too cartoony to me.

...at http://www.cowell.org/~andy/min/15mm/
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From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
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Subject: Re: Fire Actions in Stargrunt or FMA
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 20:54:08 -0500
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:10:51 -0400, "Bob Makowsky" <rmako@coqui.net>
wrote:

>Thank you for the excellent explanation.  I have been doing some Not
Star
>Wars battles in FMA with my Daughter and Son (6 1/2 and 3 1/2) using an
FMA
>style variant.  I am looking at somehow basing fire actions on the
weapon.
>A submachinegun type possibly getting 2 less effective fire actions or
one
>more accurate etc.

That could work. In my Civil War rules I invented a Reload action for
really
slow weapons. I can see fast acting weapons making use of two fire
actions in
an FMA style game. In SG2 it's already factored in. 

Allan Goodall		       awg@sympatico.ca
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From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: But I already suggested... Re: GZG-NCC (was Re: Winter War
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>On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:25:33 -0600, devans@uneb.edu wrote:
>
>  >...MCC - Mid Continent Convention. ;->=

OK, how about someone's previous suggestion of Mid-West Con. MWC

Schoon
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:30:45 -0600, devans@uneb.edu wrote:

>You call it what you want, Allan; I'll watch your back. ;->=

Cool. I think it should be called "Bob". 

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These details look more like a variation on the IAVR.  
APFC & reactive armour already cover these sort of defences, so would be
easier to subsume the LVC into those areas.  
I think part of the rationale behind IAVR not being defended by PDS is
the
reaction time between launch and impact.  When the launch is in metres
and
takes 1-2 seconds to impact, the PDS just won't be able to slew the
barrels
around in time.  (Hammer's Slammers covers this pretty well).

Neath Southern Skies -http://home.pacific.net.au/~southernskies/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barclay, Tom [SMTP:tomb@bitheads.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 12:43 PM
> 
> Finally, LVC/1 can be carried and fired by infantry heavy weapon teams
(in
> this case, it represents a recoilless rifle). 
> 
>  LVC come in all classes (from 1 to 5). The low muzzle velocity of the
LVC
> rounds means that they may be intercepted by area and point defense
> weapons--the target of an attack by LVC may choose to use a point
defense
> or
> area defense die normally used against guided missiles as a secondary
> target
> die (instead of using "evading," "soft cover," or other secondary
die). 
> 
> ==> Can you defend against an IAVR with PDS? I thought not. If not, is
an
> RR
> that different? Hmmm. Though Oerjan has indicated modern PDS probably
> should
> be able to engage IAVRs too IIRC. 
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John Fox wrote:

> Hello Everyone:
>   I am involved in a Traveller game and I just rolled up a character
that has
> two levels in Sensors skills.  I want to
> be able to talk with some knowledge on sensors (espically space based
sensors
).
>   Does anyone have a primer on space sensors?
>   Is there a website that I can read that will give me the basics for
sensor
> tech?
>   Is there a write up that is not too out of date that give stuff like
> resolution, scan time, power needs, problems sensors have, limitations
etc?
>
>   Thanks in advance
>
>   John W. Fox
>   "It is either a really big ship or we are about to run into a
plaent, Sir!"

Skolnick's Radar Handbook will have everything you never wanted to know
about
radar.	But because there are major propogation delays in space (even at
light
speed), you should probably read about anti-submarine warfare sensors
and repla
ce
sound propogation with light propogation, to get the feel of operating
sensors 
in
ship-to-ship combat.

The Radar Handbook should give you enough jargon to baffle your friends.

Another good source of material is the Traveller technical manual A.K.A
"Fire,
Fusion, and Steel".  It is more readable, and richly written.  It is
meant for 
a
gamemaster to invent new devices for their campaigns, but has enough
science to
provide a great deal of flavour text.
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***
Uh, just to be pedantic, Winnipeg is pretty darn close to the
geographical
centre of the continent. Winnipeg isn't much different from Hudson's
Bay.
*G*
***

Understood, but, if I'm reading the map correctly, Winnepeg is as close,
or
closer, to the Sioux City I suggested earlier, as it is to Hudson Bay.
And,
Nebraska winters scare plenty of folks, though I've had plenty of
discussions with friends in Regina, and have no desire to experience a
central Canadian winter, either. ;->=

ANYWAY, I was thinking of the northern side of the bay for the 'north
shore'. *brrrr*

***
Cool. I think it should be called "Bob".
***

As I break into a Paul Simon song: I will call you Betty, and Betty, you
can call me Al...

Anyway, would you make to a con in Winnepeg? ;->=

The_Beast

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Yuck, anything north of Fargo gives me the willies. They like use some
wierd
measurement system based on, get this, 10's instead of the perfectly
logical
random assortment of 4's, 3's and 12's etc, we enjoy here in the US.
Plus,
they say "aboot" instead of "about." Wierd.

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>From: devans@uneb.edu
>To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
>Subject: Re: But I already suggested... Re: GZG-NCC (was Re: Winter War
28)
>Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2000, 8:25 PM
>

>
> ***
> Uh, just to be pedantic, Winnipeg is pretty darn close to the
geographical
> centre of the continent. Winnipeg isn't much different from Hudson's
Bay.
> *G*
> ***
>
> Understood, but, if I'm reading the map correctly, Winnepeg is as
close, or
> closer, to the Sioux City I suggested earlier, as it is to Hudson Bay.
And,
> Nebraska winters scare plenty of folks, though I've had plenty of
> discussions with friends in Regina, and have no desire to experience a
> central Canadian winter, either. ;->=
>
> ANYWAY, I was thinking of the northern side of the bay for the 'north
> shore'. *brrrr*
>
> ***
> Cool. I think it should be called "Bob".
> ***
>
> As I break into a Paul Simon song: I will call you Betty, and Betty,
you
> can call me Al...
>
> Anyway, would you make to a con in Winnepeg? ;->=
>
> The_Beast
>
> -Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon
>
> One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
> Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
> 
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I can definitely suggest FFS, as known to Traveller heads. Bring your 
scientiffic calculator, some of the math gets dense. At least for a
history
guy like me.

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>From: Richard Bell <rlbell@sympatico.ca>
>To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
>Subject: Re: Sensor Technology
>Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2000, 8:25 PM
>

>
>
> John Fox wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone:
>>   I am involved in a Traveller game and I just rolled up a character
that ha
s
>> two levels in Sensors skills.  I want to
>> be able to talk with some knowledge on sensors (espically space based
sensors).
>>   Does anyone have a primer on space sensors?
>>   Is there a website that I can read that will give me the basics for
sensor
>> tech?
>>   Is there a write up that is not too out of date that give stuff
like
>> resolution, scan time, power needs, problems sensors have,
limitations etc?
>>
>>   Thanks in advance
>>
>>   John W. Fox
>>   "It is either a really big ship or we are about to run into a
plaent, Sir!
"
>
> Skolnick's Radar Handbook will have everything you never wanted to
know about
> radar.  But because there are major propogation delays in space (even
at ligh
t
> speed), you should probably read about anti-submarine warfare sensors
and
replace
> sound propogation with light propogation, to get the feel of operating
sensor
s
in
> ship-to-ship combat.
>
> The Radar Handbook should give you enough jargon to baffle your
friends.
>
> Another good source of material is the Traveller technical manual
A.K.A "Fire
,
> Fusion, and Steel".  It is more readable, and richly written.  It is
meant fo
r
a
> gamemaster to invent new devices for their campaigns, but has enough
science
to
> provide a great deal of flavour text.
> 
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:03:18 -0600, "Joseph Arnold" <jdarnold@siu.edu>
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>GZG-GLC GZG Great Lakes Convention (if in Chicago)

Ummm... Just to be pedantic, shouldn't this be Ontario? I mean, Illinois
is on
one Great Lake. Ontario borders 4. *grin*

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On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 20:28:07 -0600, "Joseph Arnold" <jdarnold@siu.edu>
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>Plus,
>they say "aboot" instead of "about." Wierd.

It's abowt. Not aboot. Like, if you were saying ab -- dropped something
heavy
on your foot -- and said t. 

And what is it with you Americans saying "ruff" instead of "roof".
What's THAT
about? *G*

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Yeah, but things actually happen in Illinois. Last I heard anything out
of
Torornto was when the "Kids in the Hall" broke up.

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> On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:03:18 -0600, "Joseph Arnold" <jdarnold@siu.edu>
wrote:
>
>>GZG-GLC GZG Great Lakes Convention (if in Chicago)
>
> Ummm... Just to be pedantic, shouldn't this be Ontario? I mean,
Illinois is o
n
> one Great Lake. Ontario borders 4. *grin*
>
>
> Allan Goodall 		 awg@sympatico.ca
> Goodall's Grotto:  http://www.vex.net/~agoodall
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:07:53 -0600 devans@uneb.edu writes:
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>***
>Sigh.	I never thought a comment so common in my childhood would be so
>misunderstood.
>***
>
>I think there were a fair number of us fellow-fathers-of-daughters 
>that
>understood, and merely shook our heads, quietly. ;->=
>
>Back to the game list, which is STILL in progress...
>
>The_Beast
>
>-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon
>
>One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
>Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
>

So THAT was what that psychic wind was - synchronicity.
<grin>

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On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:09:58 -0800 (PST) Tom Granvold
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>> ***
>> Sigh.  I never thought a comment so common in my childhood would be 
>so
>> misunderstood.
>> ***
>> 
>> I think there were a fair number of us fellow-fathers-of-daughters 
>that
>> understood, and merely shook our heads, quietly. ;->=
>
>   That's for sure.  A father of a 14 year old daughter.
>   
>Enjoy,
>Tom
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>
Raising two boys long distance and part time (which is more then their
mother could contribute despite her best efforts) did not prepare me for
two girls, full-time.  Which I intellectually  knew but that is like
'simulated combat' - good only up to a point (when the 'real thing'
starts.)

Loving it most of the time.  Despite being frequently confused.

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What that's abowt is a prime example of the rich panoply that is the
system
of modern American dialects. I think you hang out with too many Yoopers
(people from Upper Peninsula Michigan). The same folks say things like
"root" instead of "route" and "comfy" instead of "f*ckin' cold."

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>From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
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> On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 20:28:07 -0600, "Joseph Arnold" <jdarnold@siu.edu>
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>>Plus,
>>they say "aboot" instead of "about." Wierd.
>
> It's abowt. Not aboot. Like, if you were saying ab -- dropped
something heavy
> on your foot -- and said t.
>
> And what is it with you Americans saying "ruff" instead of "roof".
What's THA
T
> about? *G*
>
>
> Allan Goodall 		 awg@sympatico.ca
> Goodall's Grotto:  http://www.vex.net/~agoodall
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:44:02 -0500 Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
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>And what is it with you Americans saying "ruff" instead of "roof". 
>What's THAT
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So we're Bar-Bar-Barbarians - look what they did to Rome.  <grin>

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On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 20:52:54 -0600, "Joseph Arnold" <jdarnold@siu.edu>
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>What that's abowt is a prime example of the rich panoply that is the
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>of modern American dialects. I think you hang out with too many Yoopers
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>"root" instead of "route" and "comfy" instead of "f*ckin' cold."

Actually, I hang out too much with Southerners. Mississippi, Tennessee,
and
Lousiana to be technical. *S* They are teaching me to speak Southern.
I'm
fixin to call them up and see how I'm doin'. 

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> > > I'm looking for fairly comprehensive, and fairly
> > navigatable and  printable (the FT Ship Registry wasn't) copies of
> > quasi official fleet  listings for the following fleets. - Islamic
> > Federation, Oceanic Union,
> > > UNSC.
>
> Note that the small nations are
> considered to have about 200 to 400 warships
> per nation.

Well...small nations (e.g. Ghurka World) ought to have a few frigates
and a destroyer--which are unusable for lack of maintenance.

According to Indy's Fleet lists, the NSL has a 128,526 navy (plus
fighters).  Brian Bell has a fleet list for PAU, at 82,679NPV, plus
fighters.   One of the other of those should probably be adjusted--I'd
expect the NSL to be able to afford 4-5 times what the PAU can.

In round numbers, using the OU as "1 fleet", the powers should have
roughly:
OU, FCT, IC: 1
PAU: 1.1
IF: 2
NSL: 5
FSE: 6
ESU: 8.5
NAC: lots...around 25.
Adjustments: the NAC figure should be reduced to account for economic
damage during the US economic collapse and the various wars of the
Americas.  These figures assume that all economies will grow at the
same rate and all governments will put the same proportion of their
GDP into naval construction.

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