RE: Where's the Cheese? AND new 25mmGZG Halftrack!

It is using the rules to gain the advantage rather than the game
mechanics
or tactical employment of your squads that makes it cheesy.

In RL (quaint abbrev for Real Life), a squad leader will use fire
control
orders to manage his squads fire. He may command the rifle teams to
engage
one target and his SAW team to fire on another, but if engaging one
target
it will be a single order.

Taking it even further in cheesiness, I've seen guys try to argue that
since
they have 6 riflemen with FP 3 rifles that they are wasting the fire of
two
of them (6xFP3=18 but they only get a d12) so they wish to fire 4 rifles
in
one action and then use a second action to fire the other two!! 

The best try was to fire three rifles getting a d10 (remeber you round
up?)
in the first and then the second three rifles with a d10 in the second
action. Now throw a couple of IAVRs in each action; argued that if the
riflemen aren't firing the Rifle then they can fire the IAVR!!

This is only one example of where a player can exploit the 'letter of
the
rule' and not play in the spirit of the game. Needless to say no-one
plays
against him very much!

So, where do you 'cut the cheese'?

By the way, I just picked up a new 25mm GZG Half Track vehicle from Nic
at
Eureka Mins. Anyone else seen this one? Perfect for the Islamic platoons
and
I think the FSE legion to use too! Maybe even useable in the Antarctic
eh
Beth?

Owen G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Sarno [mailto:msarno@ptdprolog.net]
> Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2000 12:13
> To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> Subject: Where's the Cheese? [Was Newbie Questions . . .]
> 
> 
>     Splitting the fire against a target is more likely to 
> cause suppressions,
> but less likely to cause casuaties.  I've always used this 
> mechanism to employ
> "suppresive fire," which is a standard military technique.  
> What is so cheesy
> about it?
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> "Robertson, Brendan" wrote:
> 
> > #1	    Exceedingly cheesy, but not prohibited by the 
> rules.  I got a nasty
> > shock the first time I played a tournament in melbourne & 
> my PA squad took 3
> > suppressions from 2 enemy activations...  Especially as I 
> was following the
> > recommended reason for splitting fire in the rulebook; to 
> attack multiple
> > targets (infantry & vehicles) instead of multiple attack 
> the one target.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: -MWS- [SMTP:mshurtleff1@uswest.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 5:31 PM
> > >
> > > Question #1) Can a unit "split fire" against the *same* 
> target in a turn
> > > by
> > > using both of its actions?
> 
> --
> Michael Sarno
> 
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