Re: over sized walkers

Nathan rolfe wrote:

>Just wondering what comments peoples had on size 6,7 veichles and
>walkers. 

Oversized walkers are very well handled IMO - the rules make them just
as ridiculous as they ought to be :-) You need either massive stealth
levels (aka "Eldar Holofields" :-) ) or house rules for powerfields
("Void shields") to make them worthwhile. Funny, that - GW actually got
it right for once, while FASA got it badly wrong... <G>

Not so sure about supertanks, but I've never used any. IMO, any
supertank which isn't Grav-engined should treat all terrain as either
"difficult" or "impassable" due to the extreme ground pressure :-)

> To give them any chance of surving a tank hit you have load them down
> with stealth wich make them cost about 1000-1500 points.

The level-6 or -7 armour helps a bit too, though. You need at least a
size-4 weapon to have a decent chance of inflicting damage - sure, BOOM
chits are always possible, but there aren't that many of them.

Mind you, I've had a fair share of success with Eldar Titans in DSII
(massive stealth, cost about 1200 pts), often taking out 1500+ points
of enemy troops with them (well, "often" compared to how often I play
DSII, anyway <g>), so I wouldn't say that they're overpriced.

> While i am on the subject MDC's are too cheap as they cost 
> 2 more points per size than HVC's and they have more range and do
>more dammage.

Don't forget the power requirement. HVCs and HKPs can be used with CFE
engines, but you need at least a HMT if you want a large MDC. Sure,
it's only 20% of the BVP, but that's another 1-2 points per size for an
MDC on a tracked or wheeled vehicle. If you don't want GEV or grav
propulsion, the MDC effectively costs 40-50% more than the HVC and
10-20% more than the HKP.

'Course, if you only use big/fast GEVs, or grav tanks, you have the
power to spare anyway... but if you have that kind of technology,
there's no real reason why you should use primitive chemichal-energy
weapons anyway <g>

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

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