Re: [FMA] Shotgun spread, was Re: [OFFICIAL] FMA playtest version

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From: Kenneth Winland <kwinland@chass.utoronto.ca>
>
> I think that you would be VERY surprised how little a sawed-off
> shotgun spreads.  Most decrease barrel length for concealability.
>
> Sawing a barrel off or changing the choke will enhance the
> spread, but you are not going to be able to engage multiple targets at
range

    I'll tell you what, I will be travelling home this weekend and I
will
get out my brothers double barrel 12 Gauge and my single barrel pump 12
gauge and I will shoot up some sheets of plywood with various loads at
various ranges this weekend and tell you what happens. That way we can
see
what its effect really is.  I will measure them for everyone's benefit.
However I will not be able to test the sawed off properties as my family
and
I are law-abiding citizens and sawed-offs are illegal in the U.S. (well
at
least under a certain length anyway, 32" or so I think, I may be wrong,
I've
never wanted to ruin one of my guns that way).

    As for variable choke, I only have a 16 gauge to test, which is an
unusual gauge.	Most combat weapons would be 12 gauge, but gangers might
have others, since most often the guns are stolen and stealers can't
often
be as choosy.  I can test .410 & 20 gauge also if desired.  (And if this
isn't playtesting, I don't know what is!)

    I am basing my ideas on what I have seen hunting, I have seen a deer
that was shot with one 00 buckshot round have hits in the head and chest
region at ~40 yards from the side.

    To agree with you on one subject, I know that knockback is B.S.
since I
have seen deer hit with 12 gauge slugs not even flinch and in a couple
of
cases not even stop.  Knockback is highly overrated since the same force
that exits the gun is applied to the shooters body, primarily through
their
shoulder and arms and if it won't knock over the shooter it sure isn't
going
to knock the target six feet back.  (just for the record, these are
white-tailed deer that range from 100-200 pounds in size, roughly
comparable
to a humanoid target).

Hopefully not too graphic for anyone,

Later,

and talk to you after this weekend on spread ranges. . .

Voivode Shrike (Ryan Fisk)
voivode@voyager.net
"It's not denial.  I'm just very
 selective about the reality I accept."
-Calvin
(Calvin and Hobbes, by Bill Watterson)