Re: [GZG] Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi!

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----- Original Message ----
From: Robert Mayberry <robert.mayberry@gmail.com>
There's no officially sanctioned version like that. Even unofficially,
you pretty much have to use the miniatures. In BFG, there were even
penalties you'd take in-game for using ships that had not yet passed
their "fleet trials" (ie been painted).

My understanding is that for 5th edition, there's a new obstacle: true
LOS. They have this laser pointer doohickey that you're supposed to
use to see if one model blocks another.

Note that my understanding of 5th ed is VERY sketchy at this point.

Robert Mayberry

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM, John Brewer <jbrewer@webtv.net> wrote:
> Is there a CHEAPER version of WarHammer 40K?  I remember there was a
> Napolionic Era game where the pieces are not painted minitures but
long
> cardboard counters representing unit battlelines.  Could there be a
series
> of cardboard counters that could used in place of the expensive
minitures?

There's no version of carboard cutouts for any 3d figure wargame that I
know of. If you want to use carboard counters it's a large scale
boardgame. 
If you and your firends want to use the 40k rulebook and make up your
own army lists and points values and use 15mm figures to portray your
own scifi universe no one is going to stop you. GW lawyers won't
teleport in and zap you with cease and desist cannons. It is much harder
to do this from 40k because there isn't a generic design tool and common
point value accross all the systems but you could easily make one if you
wanted to put int the work.
I never encountered the thing about being painted, in BFG but then I
never play in a GW store and store managers often introduced a whole
bunch of additional rules. I don't think its a bad idea at all, it's way
better to play with nicely painted models.
Many wargames use models eye view to determine LOS, there is some
consternation among seasoned 40k players that people will model their
figures crouching to gain some kind of in game advantage. Not sure if
this will work or not. The laser pointer is GW's idea to quickly resolve
arguments about whether you can see them or not. I expect most people
will buy one from their pet store rather than the GW one if they do so
at all.