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[GZG] Re: The internal workings of Fleets

From: "mrwalsh" <mrwalsh@a...>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:47:00 +0800
Subject: [GZG] Re: The internal workings of Fleets

Hi

My knowledge is based on service in the RAN(Royal Australian Navy), the
RAN 
fleet consists mostly of escort type vessels, frigates mostly now
although I 
have served on destroyers and destroyer escorts as well as other support

vessels. Although small the RAN ships will be deployed in operational
areas 
regularly. Not being a line officer my knowledge is possibly inaccurate
but 
here goes, the RAN will deploy ships to an operational area, within that

area the ships can be assigned to different formations within a 
multinational force, depending on their particular strengths and the 
requirements. These assignments can be fluid as ships will be pulled out
of 
a battle group for rest or may be assigned a different task within the
group 
or transferred to a different battle group.
All ships even when functioning within a multinational UN or US force
seem 
to still be answerable to their own command and rules of engagement. So
if 
the rules of engagement differ their own ROE have priority.

How this relates to fictional future space command and control is
impossible 
to say, IMO the key is going to be communications, that will determine
the 
scope and size of task forces as well as the level of intervention
available 
from home base. Where long distance comms are impossible the situation
will 
be more like 17th century Navy than 21st.

Cheers Mike

from Michael Walsh
mrwalsh@accessin.com.au

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> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:48:00 -0500
> From: Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] The internal workings of Fleets
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> Others with 'real knowledge' will have to cover this for me, but my
> impression was that current navies tend to deploy single ships of
whatever
> size is necessary for patrols and the like, and that squadrons and/or
> flotillas tend to be mostly administrative functions, save for
occasional
> excersises.
>
> Where you have large groups, they tend to be set up that way, so that
a
> carrier will have assigned, and integrated, a range of assests, and
the
> interworkings of ships is managed with electronic communications.
>
> Do we have anyone currently naval to tell me how much is of the above
is
> accurate, and how much whole-cloth flack?
>
> The_Beast
>
> David wrote on 08/22/2005 03:53:21 AM:
>
>> Indy's lists seem to follow modern naval useage (or as
>> much of it as I understand) in that there are Destroyer
>> and Cruiser Flotillas that do the bulk of the patrolling
>> and showing the flag, and 'Heavy Units'/Strike Units
>> which, like modern US Carrier Groups (for instance), are
>> deployed from base areas to where the serious fighting is.

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