Re: TOE was: Re: Mixed Tech forces

At 10:07 PM -0700 6/24/04, John Atkinson wrote:
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>ARVs as Engineers. . . I dunno.  The jobs are not
>simillar.  Your ARVs should be staffed by mechanics.

Sappers are not REMEs.

http://www.rememuseum.org.uk/ or http://usite.army.mod.uk/REME/index.htm
http://www.army.mod.uk/royalengineers/

>Now, in the UK those are REME (IIRC), the Royal
>Electrical and Mechanical Engineers not to be confused
>with Royal Engineers.	In US, they are Ordnance Corps.
>  Dunno where the Canadians put 'em.  Either way, they
>have a totally different role than combat engineers or
>assault pioneers or whatever you want to call them.
>They should be operationally subordinate to whoever is
>responsible for unit maintinence, not the battalion
>engineer.

And they'd typically run about in two types of 
vehicles. I know for a fact that the Aussies 
still use a REME (RAEME in assie speak) LAD and 
heavy recovery teams. The Light Aid Detachment 
(or in Aussie speak, LRT Light Recovery Team) 
would run around in an M113 (Fitter Track). 
They're able to take care of most minor problems 
that doesn't involve the removal of larger 
powerpacks or heavy recovery duties. The heavy 
recovery vehicle is there to handle larger issues 
that the LAD or FRT can't handle.

This pattern goes all the way back to WWII where 
they'd run LAD out of bren carriers and use 
heavier wheeled soft skin vehicles for the heavy 
tasks. Some specialist armored recovery vehicles 
were made, but those were fairly specialized and 
were (usually) built out of vehicles partially 
written off (turrets all but destroyed, etc).

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/alex011.html
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/alex010.html
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/alex016.html

You could fit out your normal APC with some kind 
of smaller crane and perhaps a static version 
with a tent to represent a night post for repairs 
(perhaps outside the scope of DSII?)

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