RE: more Graser observations

Full thrust as a Card Game? 
I think I rather be hit by those Graser 1's...

Andrew Apter
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU] On Behalf Of
bail9672@bellsouth.net
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:59 AM
To: Ground Zero Games mailing list
Subject: re: more Graser observations

>> Second battle, after double rerolls from a Graser-1
>> (6 dice total),
>
>How many Graser 1's?  What were all the rolls?

If I recall correctly, in that instance 3 Graser-1s fired, 
one missed, one rolled a 5, the last rolled a 6.  
Then there were 2 more sixes for a total of 7 
damage dice.  We rolled it, marked the damage, 
and pretty much decided the battle was over.  
First salvo and the game was decided (lots of
maneuvering first before firing happened).
That's when we applied the "no-reroll" house 
rule for Grasers, we re-rolled damage
as 3 dice, and continued playing.  We (4) were
all much happier with that house rule.

Now I remember the other thing I wanted 
to say: We fought 4 battles today.  The winners
of 3 were the ones with the most Graser-1s,
the other was a draw (we chased each other
around the board twice and decided it was enough :) ).
Coincidence?  Or my bad luck since I didn't win
a single time?

Then there's the "my salvo will wreck your ship to
pieces" said by Steve AND myself when we traded
salvos at a range of 5 in another game.  
He had initiative, fired 
6x class-1 railguns, 4x class-1 beams, 3x class-1
grasers, and didn't threshold me (3 hull from it).  Then
I fired with 2x class-5 rail guns and 2x class-1 
rail guns and rolled a 1 to hit on one of the class-5s
(but doubled up the other one), no threshold.
We joked about that exchange for the rest of the day. :)

>>> After all, you're not the one who'll have to defend 
>>> the rules against people who get their games ruined 
>>> by munchkins or people who can roll "6" at will
>>
>> If they really do roll 6's "at will", then this is called 
>> "cheating" or "loaded dice".
>>
> Could you please convince Glen Bailey (ie., bail9672) 
> about this for me?

Convince me of what?  Steve doesn't roll them at will.
Just happens to roll lots of 5s and 6s over 1s and 2s.
The only good side effect of this is that his current
designs make use of lots of class-1 rail guns so he
doesn't get good results on the rerolls.  :) 

About games ruined?  I can't help it that I roll 1s too
much.  I do this when I roll the ability scores of my 
D&D characters, also.  Now when I played Star Fleet
Battles the dice turned on me.	*sigh*

But I'm a terror when it comes to diceless games. :D
(before you say it...I hate chess)

Hmm, is diceless Full Thrust feasible?	 :D :D :D :D

Glen