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Re: Kids at GZG ECC?

From: <warbeads@j...>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:07:56 -0600
Subject: Re: Kids at GZG ECC?

Some of my best games have included 7th and 8th graders who have
grognards for Dads (and a couple of Moms who have war game interests -
one even plays) and who are 'also playing' in the same game as Dad or
[not always same side.]  One Starguard game pitted two brothers  (That
age range) against each other and the new to war games, younger brother
edged out his sibling in the last turn.  Lots of explanations since the
game was new to both.  Older GW playing brother learned why you don't
rush a defense position covered by Nekton Sonic Rifles, sonic grenade
launchers and  heavy weapons... especially moving your laser MG into
Short range in the process.  Since I (defender) was the Nektons the good
news was that the younger sibling seeing this ran his swamp boats on to
the edge of the 'land' the positions were on then assaulted the other
wing while big brother's jump troops were being ejected from the other
flank.	Having a single Power Armor Fire Team didn't hurt either since
the heavy weapons were busy shooting away from him for two turns (all it

That said, I see too many kids marginalized in team settings.  In a
armor game the one kid was given the trash infantry (no vehicles/etc.)
and positioned on the extreme "off flank" all game.  One shot (and only
because one of the US player saw the problem late in the game and rushed
the previously hyper cautious truck borne  forces down the road towards
that side of town heedlessly; we had already obviously lost the game so
the faux pas wasn't that big a deal) was about all the kid (and one
also marginalized by the over focused German commanders) got in the
4 hour game.


"Half the Harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to
feel important.  They don't mean to do harm - but the harm does not
interest them.	 Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they
are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves."
     T. S. Elliot

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:21:26 -0800 (PST) Corey Burger
<> writes:
>I am keen to get more younger kids in the hobby(understanding I am 
>only 21
>myself) but my several exposures have been for the most part negative.
>The biggest being RPGA, Living Greyhawk and the lot. Most of the kids 
>have seen tend to rowdy, munchkins and generally little sh*ts.
>One other place was at a local game day, right when Mage Knight was
>just coming into existence. A local adult was trying to teach 5 kids 
>me how to play the game. I enjoyed the game but ending up playing for 
>kids or answering questions from them. Zero attention span.
>Now all that being said, a well supervised kid i.e with responsible 
>in tow is a lot of fun at a gaming table. It works best if an adult is
>willing to spend *lots* of 1 on 1 time with the kid, and keep them

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