Re: AMERICANS

Dawg,

> DAWGIE, getting pissed with all of this.

If you are in that frame of mind, it probably isn't the best time to
send an
email.	Email is a difficult enough communications medium when everyone
is
calm.

> how many of you have served in your own country's armed  forces
> not many, i suspect.

You are, I'm afraid, very wrong here.

But perhaps more imporantly this is way off topic.  How about discussing
the
Stargrunt stats for an American Marine platoon circa 2026?

Nicholas Caldwell
clcaldwell@kreative.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <DAWGFACE47@webtv.net>
To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Cc: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: AMERICANS

>
> Y'ALL KNOW,  if the USA had stayed home and minded its own business
and
> said piss off to the rest of the enlightened	countries of the world
in
> the 20th Century, the ones of you that were not speaking German or
> Japanese,  Italian, Chinese, or  Russian, would certainly be leading
> diferent lives than the ones you lead today.
>
> as for the mighty RED AIR FORCE, the LUFTWAFFE was unable to	match
> numbers  with it on the  EASTERN FRONT, hence the Soviets had air
> control for a part of the  war.
>
> and of course our Russian allies, had  made a peace treaty with the
> Japanese so they could  concentrate of the Axis.
>
> and they still used huge quantities of American manufactured machines,
> weapons, ammo,  clothing and food in their  war against the Axis .
>
> this does not reduce the importance of  Russian actions in WW II as an
> ally, but remember, they also  co-invaded Poland.
>
> having talked with many old  landsers, upon reflection they admit 
that
> Reich did as much to defeat the Reich as any	of the ALLIEs.	some
> interesting reading about  Germany's war time production  and
political
> decisions that limited it also will provide some clues to problems
> created by the Reich	for the Reich.
>
> i seem to remember that America supplied arms, ammo, equipment,
> vehicles, ships, aircraft,  training facilities, food, medicine,
medical
> technology,  POW  storage and etc  for THE ALLIES, all the while
> fighting its own war.
>
> honestly, i like  Germans, Brits, Canucks and Aussies. i liked most
> Europeans and Scandinavians too.  i liked most of the folks  i met in
> Japan and Korea, even some of the folks i met in the RVN. ditto  for
> other folks  from around the planet.
>
> and i do not "wrap myself in an American flag" as some of you like to
> say.
>
> i can tell the difference between right, wrong, and do not give a shit
> too.
>
> but, i do not like the patronizing tone,
> DEREK is displaying towards America  and Americans,  or that a lot of
> y'all are showing.
>
> maybe we should have sayed home and left y'all  folks ancestors to
> sizzle in their own shit instead of bailing you out, rebuilding you,
and
> protecting you with OUR MONEY and OUR BLOOD . . .
>
> with your assistance , of  course.
>
> i am starting to get a bit  irritated with folks now, including
> Americans who like to say things i perosnally do not agree with.
>
> but feel free to say them, it is your right as an American,  and i
guess
> your privilage to do so as a foreigner.
>
> but one question here for EVERYONE:
>
> how many of you have served in your own country's armed  forces or any
> police , fire or rescue service? how many of you have actually done
> something  for the good of all or the good of the  few? how many of
you
> have actually made  physical, financial, personal, and psychological
> sarcifices  for the things you treasure most?
>
> not many, i suspect. most of y'all had lead comfortable  lives, free
> from want, hardship,	fear, death, famine, and disease . . .
>
> quite  a few, if not most are well educated either by your own efforts
> or the labors of others.
>
> none live in "poverty", i suspect.
>
> and there is nothing wrong with this.
>
> but you should always  remember that YOU have the life YOU HAVE NOW
> because some one else carried the can when it needed carrying . . . .
>
> John irritates me sometimes too. and being a soldier is not a license
to
> be an asshole (John is not an asshole  either).
>
>
> another question:
>
> how many of you have actually killed another human being? or seen your
> friends killed or maimed?
>
> very damned few.
>
> i am tired. my head hurts.  i am old . i am fat. i am crippled up.
>
> But you know what?  i am proud of me, proud of  my service to my
country
> and yours, proud i was able to serve the public good , and PROUD OF MY
> COUNTRY.
>
> i may not say things	as slick as some of you do, and may not be as
well
> educate  or speciliast educated as some of you, but i can look myself
in
> the mirror, state my thoughts, and stand by my friends without feeling
> fear of PC or being caugh wearing two faces.
>
>
> DAWGIE, getting pissed with all of this.
>
>
>
>