Re: Opinion - Respect = Re: [OT] Frog Bashing

At 05:53  30/05/02 -0700, John wrote:
>Actually got well more than status quo ante bellum.
>The Brits got the hell out of the Ohio River Valley.
>Stopped impressment (wasn't in the treaty, but it
>stopped).
>
>All against the best and largest navy on the planet,
>and one of the best armies going?

But the war didn't involve whole the navy or the army, in fact neither
side 
was able to sustain the war, a case of lengthening and contracting
supply 
lines. For the British there were pressing concerns in Europe.

By the way you can also apply your statement to the Vietnam War :)

One of the most interesting things I have found about the perception of
the 
US Navy of the period is how people never scratch past the surface, the
US 
navy frigates were at first glance better ships, but at that point the
US 
Navy was a Brown water navy operating on short cruises relatively close
to 
their bases. As a result their frigates carried more guns, so much so
that 
in some cases the number of guns carried actually warped the ship's
hulls. 
The British on the other hand went on cruises lasting years and had to 
carry the supplies required.

>Damn right that's a victory.

While the rest of the world (including published American texts)
consider 
it a stalemate.

Cheers

Derek

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