Re: [OT] Cerebus Re: No campaign system acceptable for SG2?
From: ShldWulf@a...
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:01:13 EST
Subject: Re: [OT] Cerebus Re: No campaign system acceptable for SG2?
In a message dated 12/16/2000 10:08:06 AM Mountain Standard Time,
JDoch226@aol.com writes:
<< Thanks for the more detailed description of the game. It sounds like
it
could be used to generate some Dirtside scenarios as well as StarGrunt,
and
maybe FT games could be used to influence the Space Superiority
mechanism as
well! I haven't seen one of these games for sale in ages, but now I'll
be
haunting the convention flea markets and ebay till I find a copy.
Jed >>
He...he... Gee I never thought of that ;o)
Wanna trade idea notes?
(The REALLY sad part is I've never actually played the game. I managed
to
watch about half of two sessions, but I was running a gaming guild at
the
time and couldn't play because I was busy orginizing the game day :o)
Randy
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Subject: Miniature search (OT)
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I seem to have lost the URL for the pics of the United Nations
Battleship
mini. Can someone send it to me? (Hinting at the wife is not working..
I'm
looking for a sledge hammer ;o)
Randy
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From: "Owen Glover" <oglover@bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: RE: irish question
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:32:13 +1100
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During the Napoleonic wars there were a number of Irish Regiments that
weren't from Ireland. The Spanish fielded three; Hibernia, Urlanda and
Ultonia; they drew recruits from ex-patriate Irish.
No reason why there cannot be an Irish Guard Regiment or Battalion in
the
NAC regardless of how the question of Irish unity is resolved or where
Republic of Ireland ends up.
Owen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> [mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of Laserlight
> Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2000 2:10 PM
> To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: irish question
>
>
> > After reading thread on what power that Ireland is part of, I have a
> > question on this.I am working on an idea for the Irish Guards
> regiment in a
> > campaign setting,taking place in the Gamma Serpentis system (check
> out
> > Nyrath's FT galactic map--this system borders both NAC and ESU
> space),where
> > this regiment is part of NAC and is involved in combat (read
> "scenarios")
> > vs.ESU forces.My question is that since this regiment is currently
> part of
> > the British army (as one of the 5 currently active Guards regiments)
> that
> > would it still be considered part of NAC in this universe?
> > What sayeth the list? Or Jon?
>
> They could be Irish from Boston.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:49:17 -0500
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
From: Brian Bell <bkb@beol.net>
Subject: Re: Miniature search (OT)
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At 2000.12.16 -0500 20:08, you wrote:
>I seem to have lost the URL for the pics of the United Nations
Battleship
>mini. Can someone send it to me? (Hinting at the wife is not working..
I'm
>looking for a sledge hammer ;o)
>
>Randy
Ask and you shall recieve.
I took some BAD scans of my primed UNSC BB and placed them
at http://www.ftsr.org/ft/display/gallery.asp. They are the
last 2 pictures on the page. I have not yet painted it, so it is just in
primer. But I hope it helps.
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At 2000.12.16 -0500 20:08, you wrote:
>I seem to have lost the URL for the pics of the United Nations
Battleship
>mini. Can someone send it to me? (Hinting at the wife is not working..
I'm
>looking for a sledge hammer ;o)
>
>Randy
Actually after posting I rechecked Geo-Hex's web site.
They have a picture of it (MUCH Better than mine).
Go to http://www.geohex.com/ftssunsc1.htm and click on the
camera icon to see a picture of the ship.
Also, if you are in North America, Geo-Hex is running some
deals on GZG Spaceship "Fleet Packs" (see
http://www.geohex.com/DealsIndexFT.htm)
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From: "Peter Mancini" <peter_mancini@msn.com>
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Subject: Re: irish question
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>They could be Irish from Boston.
>
Also note there are more Irish American's than there are Irish Irishmen.
Being Irish is more than just having citizenry in one small island
nation -
it transendes boundries. The same can't be said for being an American
as US
Customs will point out at the border...
--Peter
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> After reading thread on what power that Ireland is part of, I have a
> question on this.I am working on an idea for the Irish Guards
regiment in a
> campaign setting,taking place in the Gamma Serpentis system (check
out
> Nyrath's FT galactic map--this system borders both NAC and ESU
space),where
> this regiment is part of NAC and is involved in combat (read
"scenarios")
> vs.ESU forces.My question is that since this regiment is currently
part of
> the British army (as one of the 5 currently active Guards regiments)
that
> would it still be considered part of NAC in this universe?
> What sayeth the list? Or Jon?
They could be Irish from Boston.
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From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@spikyfishthing.com>
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Hey all, there's a convention in Mission BC in February called
CONspiracy. I'm thinking on running a few GZG games there. Most likely
SGII and Full Thrust. If there are any others in the area that might
show up I can change the format so you can bring in your own armies and
fleets. I'd just write up some missions and senarios and we'd play off
those.
CONspiracy web page: http://www.longshotsystems.com/CONspiracy/
Jaime
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From: "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>
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Subject: Re: [FT] New Weapon
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:46:18 +0100
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Ranitzsch, Karl Heinz wrote:
>>>how about the converse - damage increases with range, while
>>>accuracy reduces - use the tabel above, but invert the last two
>>>columns
>>
>>Easy enough to do. Flipping the tables shouldn't affect play balance.
>>The statistics remain the same, though reversed.
>
>Not sure about play balance not being affected. Using the normal fire
>arcs, at long range you cover a much bigger area with a one-arc
>weapon than at close range. So you are likely to have more targets
>and a target cannot escape as easily from the fire zone.
The original table was the first five lines of this:
Range To Hit Damage Avg dmg:
0-6 MU 6+ 6 "beam" dice 0.8
6-12 5+ 5 dice 1.33
12-18 4+ 4 dice 1.6
18-24 3+ 3 dice 1.6
24-30 2+ 2 dice 1.33
30-36 1+ 1 die 0.8
If all you do is reverse the "to hit number" and "damage" columns so
you hit on 1+ but inflict 1 die at range 0-6, and hit on 6+ but inflict
6 dice at range 30-36, the average damages in each range band is
exactly the same as in the table above. OK, you "reverse" it, but since
it is symmetric the end result is the same anyway. Therefore, once the
version above is correctly balanced, the reversed version will
automatically be balanced as well.
Schoon commented:
>Not entirely true. Statistically, you're spot on. However, I find
>that ship speed and the nature of most battles (which tend to close
>very rapidly through the outer range bands) tends to limit the
>usefulness of that larger area. Also, for those who don't measure,
>range estimation gets much more shaky past 24 inches.
Um... well. In my experience this is true in Vector, but in Cinematic
it is only true *as long as both sides use the standard human FB1
weapons*. If one (or both) sides use weapons which don't degrade with
range, eg. the Phalon Pulsers, the pattern changes quite noticably.
I think this is because with range-degraded weapons (eg. all the human
weapons), both sides gain firepower from closing the range - and thus
it is rare for either side to make a real effort to keep the range
open. In relative terms, FSE ships gain more beam firepower than NSL
ones by closing from range 13 to range 11, even though the FSE is
outgunned die-for-die at both ranges.
If OTOH one side has the firepower advantage at longer ranges but is
outgunned up close (eg. pulsers set to M or L vs human beams), it
doesn't gain anything at all from closing the range - and therefore has
a strong incentive to stay some distance away. Unless it is seriously
out-engined or has its main weapons in single-arc (F) mounts (like NAC
P-torps...), it is usually able to keep the range open for long enough
to affect the outcome of the battle (assuming Cinematic, that is). Not
necessarily long enough to *win*, but definitely enough to have a
noticable impact.
(In the case of Phalons with all pulsers set to "C" fighting just about
anyone else, it *is* IME enough to give the longer-ranged fleet the
victory. To date, no all-C Phalon fleet has won a single battle in my
group - not even on very restricted tables.)
All of which means that tactical truths found out when using human
range-degrading weapons and engines need to be taken with a fair pinch
of salt when applied to weapons with other range-damage profiles :-/
Later,
Oerjan Ohlson
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com
"Life is like a sewer.
What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it."
- Hen3ry
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Subject: [FT] FTSR alterations
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I`m thinking of altering some submisions to the ftsr, and want to ask
for
opinons about this SD design?
ACID SD
Replace the plasma guns with all (6 arc) pulsers, limited to close range
only.
8x3 arc plasma guns (torps), mass=48, cost=144
12x6*arc Cl.1 range pulsers, mass=48, cost=???
I`m asking for opinons about using plusers with only Cl.1 range (not
tuneable), and in the novels, the weapons were not very effective
against
fighters, so if using the PDS rules for Cl.1 bats as a god analogy, what
cost would be reasonable?
*I`m working from memory, and think it`s 4 mass for 6 arc. Anybody want
to
get close to this thing (72 die at once?).
BIF
"yorkshire born,yorkshire bred,
strong in arms, thick in head"