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Re: Fire Actions in Stargrunt or FMA

From: agoodall@c...
Date: 4 Dec 2000 12:38:14 -0800
Subject: Re: Fire Actions in Stargrunt or FMA

On Mon, 04 December 2000, "Bob Makowsky" wrote:

> 
> What is the current feeling of fire actions in FMA (or Stargrunt for
that
> matter), one fire action per activation or one per action?

In Stargrunt 2, it's one fire action per figure per activation.

In other words you can use one action to fire all figures in a squad at
a singl
e target, or you can use one action to fire some of the figures at a
target and
 a second action to fire the remaining figures at a target.

A squad can use two fire actions in a single activation, but they must
be for d
ifferent figures. They CAN be used to fire at the same target. You
could, for i
nstance, fire half the squad at a target and then fire the second half
at the s
ame target. This increases the chance of suppression while decreasing
the chanc
e of casualties.

Allan Goodall - agoodall@canada.com
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Allan,

Thank you for the excellent explanation.  I have been doing some Not
Star
Wars battles in FMA with my Daughter and Son (6 1/2 and 3 1/2) using an
FMA
style variant.	I am looking at somehow basing fire actions on the
weapon.
A submachinegun type possibly getting 2 less effective fire actions or
one
more accurate etc.

Again thanks for the input.

Bob Makowsky

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> On Mon, 04 December 2000, "Bob Makowsky" wrote:
>
> >
> > What is the current feeling of fire actions in FMA (or Stargrunt for
that
> > matter), one fire action per activation or one per action?
>
> In Stargrunt 2, it's one fire action per figure per activation.
>
> In other words you can use one action to fire all figures in a squad
at a
single target, or you can use one action to fire some of the figures at
a
target and a second action to fire the remaining figures at a target.
>
> A squad can use two fire actions in a single activation, but they must
be
for different figures. They CAN be used to fire at the same target. You
could, for instance, fire half the squad at a target and then fire the
second half at the same target. This increases the chance of suppression
while decreasing the chance of casualties.
>
> Allan Goodall - agoodall@canada.com
> __________________________________________________________
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Morgan Vening" <morgan@optushome.com.au>
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Subject: Unofficial Official Lists?

> I'm looking for fairly comprehensive, and fairly navigatable and 
> printable (the FT Ship Registry wasn't) copies of quasi official fleet

> listings for the following fleets. - Islamic Federation, Oceanic
Union, 
> UNSC.

I'll re-mail the OU ship stats I came up with some time ago. Will
mean going through the archives a bit. More later.
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***
Now, I'm not sure how you figure out if it IS a planet. This thing seems
pretty big, about half the diameter of Pluto. I'm not sure what the
criteria is for a planet. I'm guessing there's a composition criterion
and
a size criterion.
***

Major-can-o-worms: there's a big discussion on whether Pluto counts as a
planet or not, given it's apparent previous status as a moon.

Compared to the gas giants, even our little piece of rock is a hard
sell.

You call it what you want, Allan; I'll watch your back. ;->=

The_Beast

-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon

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From: "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>
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Subject: Re: [FT] Salvo Missile Range
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Laserlight wrote:

>>><sigh> This only about the fifth time I've seen this one suggestion
>>>come up in this thread, and it is just as disastrous for game
>>>balance now as it was on the previous occasions.
> 
>Oerjan, you're saying this is a problem if we have accumulated
>vectors added to missiles while *playing in cinematic*, is that right?

No. I'm saying that this is a problem if we have accumulated high
enough speeds, regardless of how you managed to reach those high
speeds.

If you play Vector on a small table and enforce strict restrictions on
the initial velocities it isn't as much of a problem as if you play
Cinematic on a big table with more-or-less free initial velocities -
but it is still a problem, and the conditions you need to enforce to
reduce the problem are quite arbitrary.

>I don't expect it would be a problem in Vector because you can't alter
>your course as dramatically as in cinematic.  If you launch from 160
>mu away and your missiles have an added vector enough to hit >enemy
ships, your missile boats will also be arriving in the same >vicinity
as his ships. 

It is less of a problem in Vector, but still a problem.

>The missiles attack before the enemy gets to shoot, of course, but
>you can arrange that under the current system.  

Under the current system, you can only arrange this if your enemy
cooperates with you (willingly or not) by moving towards you, or if
your missiles outrange his weapons anyway and he cooperates by not
backing away fast enough. If he doesn't cooperate, you can't arrange
for your missiles to attack him before he can fire at you.

With vector missiles, you can arrange to launch missiles before your
opponent can fire even when he does *not* cooperate. Arbitrary scenario
set-ups and table limitations aside, it doesn't matter how fast he is
flying nor what maneuvers he makes - as long as you have the higher
thrust rating, you are able to launch the missiles first.

For the target player there's a distinct difference between being a
passive target unable to do anything but pray, and being able to do
something to change the situation...

Regards,

Oerjan Ohlson
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

"Life is like a sewer.
  What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it."
- Hen3ry
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At 08:18 AM 12/4/00 -0600, Noel Weer wrote:
>Thanks all for pointing out the West Coast event also.
>I guess I failed to specify that I was really hoping for something in 
>the middle - say Chicago, Indianopolis, or St.Louis.
>
>There are a ton of us gamers in the vastness of this country far
removed 
>from the coasts. :)

Well, you can always champion the cause of the GZG-NCC!  (No Coast
Convention, that is, nothing to do with Star Trek... hmm, maybe we would
need a different acronymn.)

					Aaron Teske
					ateske@HICom.net
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agoodall@canada.com wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 29 November 2000, devans@uneb.edu wrote:
> 
> > And, if you want a REAL condemnation of Lucas, check out David
Brin's
> > comments in a recent SciFi channel rag. And I thought *I* needed to
cut
> > back on the coffee! ;->=
> 
> Check out Brin's "What's Wrong (and Right) with 'The Phantom Menace'"
from Sa
lon last year. Here's the URL:
> 
>
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_side/index.html
> 
> My favourite line: "He is too old to train to be a Jedi." -- Uh, Yoda?
You sa
y 6 is too old, but Luke Skywalker will be a doable fixer-upper at 20?
When do 
you recruit novices -- ripping them from the breast, like the Psi Corps
in "Bab
ylon 5"? Does the Jedi Way require complete denial of normal childhood?
An odd 
message for a kid flick!
>

I don't see that as an odd message for a kid flick at all, giving
kids a role and responsibility. Much odder would be a story in
which a child protagonist did nothing but watch TV. I read the
rest of the article and it was rubbish. Brin complains that he's
seen archetypal things before (well, duh) and rounds his argument
with stuff about Ep 1 not being inclusive and generally PC.
 
<troll>
I guess that Postman film must've been awesome for Brin to be
dissing George Lucas.

Would I be right in assuming the ratio of listers playing Star
Wars-inspired games to Uplift War games would be about...
something-to-zero?
</troll>

-- 
David Brewer

"It is foolishness and endless trouble to cast a stone at every
dog that barks at you." - George Silver, gentleman, c.1600

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