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Re: M113 APC?

From: Michael Sarno <msarno@p...>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:51:41 -0500
Subject: Re: M113 APC?



"Glover, Owen" wrote:

>
>
> Actually to provide an ACCV version you would probably rediuce the
> number of grunts you carry and add two more d8 SAWs for teh wing
> guns....

    Historically, the "ACAV" version carried about 6, both crew and
infantry support.  This included a commander, a driver, and two gunners
for crew, along with two grunts for infantry support.
    So if one wanted to design the ACAV variant for SGII, I figure you
start with the basic M113 model.  So you'd have a size class 2 vehicle
with class 1 armor all around.	You'd still have the commander, with
HMG, and driver positions for "free."  This leaves you with enough space
for 9 men.  I know that according to the SGII rules, you'd still have CS
10, but historically, the M113 carried 9 men.
    So you have 9 CS to add on all the ACAV variant additions.	This is
a grand total of 2 CS, one CS for each of the M60s.  Which would leave
you with 7 CS.	But the ACAV really only carried 4 more men, not 7 men.
So here's how I'm thinking about handling this.
    When fighting, the M60 gunners need some room.  They pop the top
hatch and start firing, but they need room inside the crew compartment
for footing and movement to get the best shots.  So while fighting, each
gunner takes up 2.5 CS.  This leaves room within the crew compartment
for the 2 grunts to remain mounted while the ACAV barrels through light
resistance.  However, if the ACAV goes into transport mode, it can carry
7 men in the crew compartment.
    What do you think, sirs?

-Mike

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