Re: Martyrs and Atrocities

The Iraqi's also dug in their zsu-23/4 to fire at ground level against
those Iranian mass assaults......

Mike Wikan wrote:
> 
> Hell, during the Iran-Iraq war the Iranians rolled bands of children
through
> the mindfields ahead of their tanks to search for mines (Read that in
a
> JANE's journal!)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan E and Carmel J Brain [SMTP:aebrain@dynamite.com.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 6:29 PM
> > To:   gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> > Subject:	  Re:Martyrs and Atrocities
> >
> > Laserlight wrote:
> >
> > > If you regard your citizens as expendable, you have a lot of
options.
> > > I understand Syria is teaching its kids, in school, that being a
> > > martyr is a great thing and walking into an Israeli building or
street
> > > with a dynamite vest counts for making you a martyr.  Okay,
> > > maybe--maybe!--a lot of the young impressionable kids who hear
this
> > > from authority figures on a regular basis still won't go along
with
> > > it, but what if one tenth of one percent of one year's worth of
> > > schoolchildren believe and are willing to act on it?  Okay, now to
be
> > > a little more organized, say you ask for volunteers to be carry a
> > > biowar package into Washington, or a suitcase nuke into Norfolk?
> > > Think you might find one?
> >
> > > Now let's take a militant government and send recruiters and
Special
> > > Forces troopers and Republican Guards and so forth, visiting every
> > > grade in every school once a month.  Instead of football and
> > > basketball, promote ROTC as fervently.  Think you'd  get enough
> > > volunteers?
> > >
> > > (Not that the Islamic Federation would do _any_ of this.	Really).
> >
> > This is extrememly plausible. In fact, it's a wonder that it hasn't
> > happened yet.
> >
> > (The last time I used the above statement was to an DIA friend of
mine
> > just before the Aum cult used GB in Tokyo, when we were discussing
> > extremist biowar attacks on the COMPUSERVE military forum.)
> >
> > What's the defence? Pretty much what we're doing now. Some checks at
> > borders to prevent it being a "no-brainer", and the implied threat
that
> > if it happens, to paraphrase Admiral Halsey, "Arabic will be a
language
> > spoken only in Hell."
> >
> > To people who value their children's lives so lightly, such a threat
is
> > much more plausible than to us. We PROBABLY wouldn't launch a war of
> > extermination using Nukes in profusion on civilian targets (only).
But
> > they couldn't be as sure of this as we are. And they're certainly
not
> > sure that the Ol Debbil CIA won't go putting multi-billion-dollar
prices
> > on the heads (just the heads...) of the people who gave the orders.
Come
> > to think of it, I'm not sure of that one myself... Oh yes, and
execution
> > via the electric chair is looked upon by many outside the US as
being
> > "Death by Torture", comparable with burning at the stake.
> >
> > "Let's see... if you order this, your family will be raped and
killed by
> > hired gunmen, and you yourself will be fried slowly on an electric
> > chair, probably after several failed attempts to stop your heart.
During
> > these attempts, your hair will catch fire, your skin will blacken,
but
> > you won't be dead. And there's a possibility that everyone you've
ever
> > known will be instantly burnt to charcoal beforehand. Have a nice
day."
> >
> > The big problem is finding out who's responsible. But as the USA has
> > shown, it really doesn't care too much. So X plants a bomb in a US
> > target, and Y gets the retaliation (or vice versa). Even when this
is
> > found out, the US public doesn't care as it's last month's news, and
the
> > rest of the world just wonders why the US doesn't bomb the bejasus
out
> > of all of them on principle. Such a cavalier attitude is a great
> > deterrent - even your friends won't give you support as they might
get
> > nuked in the backlash.
> >
> > (For those who might be offended by the above statement about US
> > attention-span, let me first apologise, then ask how many bombs hit
Iraq
> > yesterday, and how many the day before that? Because this isn't News
any
> > more, it's just information. BTW I have no idea myself, either.)
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