RE: SG non penetrating hits on size two and above vehicles

It is armour not size that determines weapon hit effects/limitations.

If by infantry weapon you mean small arms - ie the rifles, grenades and
SAW's of a typical rifle squad, there can be no damage at all:

p37  Firing Small Arms at Point Targets:

"...if the target is of armour class 2 or better, there can be NO EFFECT
other than the supression..."

and that section goes on to detail what happens for small arms hits on
armour class 1 or less.

If by "infantry weapon" you refer to infantry fired missiles, which
could
include everything up to a GMS/H depending on circumstance (not likely
the
GMS/H, which will be predominantly vehicle mounted, like the TOW system
today).  Certainly GMS/L systems might be infantry carried (like the
European HOT system or the new American Javelin).  With all these
weapons
there is certainly the effect of non-penetrating hits - after all, by
that
it means you are hitting the least armoured bits of the vehicle.

The damage isn't automatic, though, unless you roll a SYSTEMS hit, and
that
is only a 1 in 6 chance.  If you roll a SUSPENSION hit, you still have
to
make an opposed roll vs the weapon's impact value.  This is detailed on
page 39 of the rulebook, in the section "Non-Penetrating Hits on
Vehicles"

And yes it give infantry weapons a 1 in 3 chance of possibly damaging
the
vehicle on a non-penetrating hit - but so they should.	Wheels and
tracks
are rather vulnerable targets, as are antennae and optics.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:	Simon LeRay-Meyer
[SMTP:sleray-meyer@vicdairy.vic.gov.au]
>> Sent:	Wednesday, September 15, 1999 4:35 PM
>> 
>> If a size two or above vehicle is hit with an infantry weapon, but
fails
>> to
>> penetrate, do you still roll for a non-penetrating hit?  If you do,
this
>> makes vehicles very weak, you have a one in three chance of disabling
the
>> vehicle.  
>> 
>> Slim
>> 

Adrian Johnson
ajohnson@idirect.com