Re[2]: Dirtside II Damage Chits

Just to add a little note to my colleague's comments, (hi, Jon, will try
and 
phone you in the next few days), I have always played Dirtside II with
all the 
chits in a mug or similar container. Whenever you need to draw, stick
you hand 
in and stir the chits around with your finger, then pull out the number
you 
need. After you've determined the results of the draw, just toss 'em
back!!

This combines the quickness of pulling chits with the constant
probability you 
expect from dice.

Hope that helps,
Mike Elliott, GZG (wishing he could get on the Net more often...)
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Subject: Re: Dirtside II Damage Chits
Author:  SMTP:owner-ftgzg-l@bolton.ac.uk/ at INTERNET
Date:	 21/03/97 16:31

>This message is for the folks at GZG or anyone else who has an answer. 
As I 
>get deeper into counting threory I'm getting more and more disturbed by
the 
>chit system used in DSII for assessing damage.  As you draw more chits
the 
>number remaining in the bowl gets smaller and so the chances start to
get 
>squewed as you draw them.  Now the rules say that you should remix the
chits 
>after each activation, but for those vehicles with a lot of weapons or
a very 
>high weapons rating, they get the benefit of the squew while the others

>suffer.
>  The alternative is to re-mix after every draw, truly anoying...  So
for now 
>I use a unpunched group and roll 1d20 and 1d8 as a grid.  However I
think it 
>would be much better if GZG created a new chart using percentile dice. 
I 
>would love to get a copy of such an animal.
>  Phil P.

Phil,
Some people like the chit system in DSII, some don't: we liked it, which
is 
why it is there; IMHO it is easier and more fun than consulting tables, 
which is one specific thing we tried to avoid in DSII wherever possible.

Sure, you can do a dice chart if you want, and I guess many players have

done so already; we don't have one, but I'm sure someone on the list
will 
help.

OK, so the distribution does skew a little if you don't put the chits
back 
in the pot straight away, but no worse than a system that (say) uses a
card 
deck of any sort that you don't shuffle after every draw. At the end of
the 
day, does it really matter? Also, both sides get the chance of suffering
the 
same advantage/disadvantages, so I'd be VERY surprised if it really
affected 
the overall game outcome in any practical sense. If the end result of
the 
game feels right, that is the main thing - I wouldn't worry too much
about 
the minutiae...
After all, it's only a game.....< VERY BIG GRIN> (dives for cover.....)

All the best,
Jon (GZG).