Re: [GZG] [ECC XII][For Damo] Thoughts on stress for FMAS -somefeedback

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>I never played a version of MA with action points (that I recall 
>anyway). I have played Inquisitor, which did that, and for a while 
>it was in our extreme FMA variant - HyperFMAS - but we finally chose 
>to abandon it as we felt it bogged the game down. We found 
>substituting borrowed and held actions worked for most of the cases 
>you would want multiple actions and played much faster.
>
>Martin

Just to be clear, we're not talking here of rolling for AP per 
individual figure - it is a mechanic of picking a leader figure, 
rolling its QD for a number of command points, and then immediately 
spending them on activating one or more figures under that leader's 
command (at a cost per figure = to their motivation number). It 
allows a variable number of figures to be activated as a group, 
influenced by the quality of the leader and the motivation level of 
the troops under him.

For games with roughly similar numbers of figures per side it works 
really well, but it becomes stretched if one force is significantly 
larger than the other (though it can still work well for the "single 
hero vs. a horde of cannon fodder" cinematic scenarios.....).

Jon (GZG)

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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Robert Makowsky
>Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:53 pm
>Subject: Re: [GZG] [ECC XII][For Damo] Thoughts on stress for FMAS 
>-somefeedback
>To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
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>>
>>  Jon,
>>
>>  I do think that action points would have worked in our WW-II
>>  game. It would have allowed for one side to move very quickly
>>  on the board. I don't think it is a mechanic that needs to be
>>  thrown out but one that needs to be explained so that folks know
>>  how it can break.
>>
>>  Otherwise, I do find FMAS to be a great system and I look
>>  forward in helping to finish the rules.
>>
>>  Bob Makowsky
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----
>>  From: Ground Zero Games
>>  To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
>>  Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:07:59 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [GZG] [ECC XII][For Damo] Thoughts on stress for
>>  FMAS -somefeedback
>>
>>  >I don't know if he's on the list.
>>  >I did e-mail him immediately after ECC to say that I'd played
>>  in two
>>  >very different, very fun FMA games on the weekend. He gave me
>>  a quick
>>  >acknowledgement and said he planned to compose a real response
soon.
>>  >I do know that I never got around to revising my copy of FMA rules
>>  >drafts to strip out rolling for action points after the idea
>>  got tossed,
>>  >so I don't know if a good draft of the rules exists.
>>
>>
>>  The thing about the "rolling for action points" idea in FMAS is
>>  that
>>  it works very well within certain limits (I've used it plenty of
>>  times, including with players completely new to the system, and
>>  they've all liked it a lot and had a great deal of fun with it),
>>  but
>>  it has a low tensile strength - it breaks too easily when
>>  stretched!
>>  ;-)
>>
>>  I still think it may be possible to use it, at least as an
>>  option.
>>  There should be ways to mitigate the odd effects when it's used
>>  for
>>  very unbalanced games.
>>
>>  Jon (GZG)
>>
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