Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

It seems to me, that using grav tech in a mine is an overly complex and
expensive way to do a job that other tech could do just as easily. What
would a gravitic mine due other than give you a mobility kill against a
grav
vehicle.

It would be just as easy and likely cheaper, to use skeet mines with
engine
noise-seeking, hyper-penetrating projectiles or something else. 

Using skeet mine as an example, they could be used against all forms of
vehicle with nearly consistent results. Tracks, wheels, GEV, or Grav,
almost
all vehicles are going to have some sort of recognizable engine
signature
that you can home in on.

Vehicle goes by, mine picks up engine noise, chucks a "skeet" into the
air,
homes in on engine noise and fired a hyper-penetrating dart straight
into
the engine through the top deck of the vehicle where it is weakest.

-Eli

-----Original Message-----
From: gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
[mailto:gzg-l-bounces@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Mayberry
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:07 AM
To: gzg-l@vermouth.csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [GZG] Armoured utility vehicles and IEDs in SG/DS

I think you're missing my point. Not having a working grav technology
at all, neither of us has any clue how a "real" grav mine would work,
what its limitations would be, or whether countermeasures (if possible
at all) would require a specialized vehicle or not. This is because
grav is still totally speculative. It might be fun and engaging
speculation, worth including in a game, but at the moment if we really
want to be realistic we wouldn't have grav in the first place.

What I'm getting at is that, unless your particular setting has a
particular reason to embrace/reject grav mines, then your primary
goals as a designer will be game-related. That is, to keep the game
fun, interesting, flexible, tactically rich, and to make sure victory
or defeat hinges on tactics at the table rather than optimized vehicle
designs. To achieve those ends, you need to consider the gameplay
elements I described.

On 7/16/08, Richard Bell <rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com> wrote:

> You missed the point.  Anything that deflects/dampens/blocks the  grav
pulse
> also	deflects/dampens/blocks the grav drive.   That the  drive is
open to
> the pulse is as unavoidable a condition as the wheels must be in
contact
> with the ground.  The defence against these things is that they will
not
be
> cheap(not necessarily expensive, just not as cheap as cheap as
chemical
> explosives), they are unlikely as IED's, and they have no effect on
other
> vehicles.
>
> You can expect that grav-heavy forces will have dedicated vehicles
like
the
> Remus and Constructor from FASA's Renegade Legion:  Centurion game,
which
> will project a planar grav wave in front of them to detonate grav
fused
> mines, as they travel at speed.

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