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Re: [GZG] Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi!

From: John Tailby <john_tailby@x...>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:11:44 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Re: [GZG] Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi!

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re are challanges in playing any game designed for a specific rages of
figures and then using alternates.
If you were playing a Full Thrust game set in the FT universe and you
didn't use the correct ship models some people might get annoyed. Yes
this blob is a class A ship and this nearly identical blob is a
completely different class B ship and this blob is a class A ship.
So much cooler to play games where the minatures depict the correct
ships.
Lots of people use alternate minatures when playing GW games especialy
within their gaming groups. GW (not unreasonably) insist on people using
their models at an event they are running or sponsoring. No different to
any other corporation.
In 40K they play very WYSIWIG so you have to have models that look like
the capabilities they are supposed to represent. It's important to be
able to determine which model has which weapon and which is the leader
etc
If you can consistently depict the weapons accross your armies then
people have less problems with counts as figures. Again within your
gaming group you can do whatever you can agree on, just don't expect to
be able to transport your army of non GW figs to a GW store for a game.
For what you are getting I don't think GW figures are too badlt priced.
They are on a par with the other high quality corporate metal model
manufacturers and make more use of plastics than most.

1) DBM, does not dictate scale or manufacturer.
 
2) Regular releases do not have to invalidate previous releases.
 
3) Comparing the flexibility of sci-fi fantasy setting/systems to that
of historical is a non-point.
DBM does dictate scale, they don't dictate manufacturer because they
don't sell models. All games where the manufacturer makes models talks
soley about the use of their games.
Regular releases of updated rules sets or army list books does
invalidate the previous version. It does not stop people agreeing to
play the old rules of the game though. Pretty standard in all games not
just GW ones.
A scifi game tighlty bound to it's integral game universe is comparable
to a historical game. A generic set of rules (effectively GURPS
wargaming) designed to be used in a free form way will do an OK job of
representing a bunch of game universes.
By asking this list and even including the derivative name "warhamster
40k" in the original post I thinnk the poster is not expecting to get
many positive comments.
If you want some balanced feedback you would be much better to also post
on some GW forums.

That is the problem with GW games in general. There are really no widely
accepted alternatives. I would say, ask you friends if they mind you
using proxy figures. If they say yes, then you are golden. If they take
exception to that, then not much you can do.
 
-Eli

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