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Re: [GZG] [Real World] Russian Mig 29 shoots down Georgian UAV

From: Phillip Atcliffe <atcliffe@n...>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:57:25 +0100
Subject: Re: [GZG] [Real World] Russian Mig 29 shoots down Georgian UAV

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???? ????????? wrote:
>> Frits Kuijlman wrote:
>>     
>>>> Excellent bit of video footage - you can very clearly see the
fighter coming in and launching the missile.
>>>>
>>>> Russian MiG29 shooting down a Georgian UAV from the UAV's
perspective...
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7358761.stm
>>>>	     
>>> Nah, that's clearly an abchazian AA gun. At least according to the
Kremlin :-)
>>>	  
>> Dunno... if it can intercept a recon UAV and it's an "AA gun", I'm
kinda wondering about an ESU grav AFV -- which is worrying... ;-)
>>     
> Well, that's quite really a good fotage. And that's surely Russian
aircraft (MiG-29 or SU-27), or that may be Turkish F-15, cause there are
no other twin-tails in that region (but what would Turks need over
Abhasia?).
>   
More to the point, I don't think the Turks /have/ F-15s, so it'd have to

be a USAF Eagle or an Israeli one; whoever it belongs to, it's very, 
very lost if it's operating over the Georgia-Russia border area... :-)
> And, being Russian, I can believe, that Russian airforce hits Georgian
UAV. But besides the question "What did Russian fighter do over
Abhasia?" there is another question "What did Georgian UAV do there?"
Because in fact Abhasia is not a Georgian territory. During the war in
1994-95 Abhasians withdrew Georgian army and gained practically
independance. And both sides ceased fire only after UN-troops (Russians)
stood brtween them, and they had an agreement that neither Abhasian nor
Georgian planes would not fly over each other's territories. But during
last three years Georgians are very provokative.      
>   
Funny, that's what they say about the Russians... but let's not get into

that argument. The Georgians and the Russians are doing that quite well 
enough.

Phil


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