Re: OU and New Caledonia - was RE: [GZG] NSL Geopolitical Composition
From: "john tailby" <John_Tailby@x...>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:08:34 +1200
Subject: Re: OU and New Caledonia - was RE: [GZG] NSL Geopolitical Composition
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
>>>Neither NZ or Australia is likely to have the capability to
>>>arms in the next 50 years so they would need
>>>to buy them from somewhere. Historic links suggest their
>>>gear might will be Anglican.
>> What kind of arms are you talking about? We're developing new weapons
>> the time so I find that statement a bit odd.
> Shhh! He's never heard of Winin, Nulka, Karinga, Barra, Jindalee,
> Karriwarra, Ikara, Malkara, Jindivik, etc etc. Few people have. Though
> Brits know about their SSQ-801 sonobuoy aka Barra, and the USN their
> DLS, aka Nulka and Mk303 Target Drone, aka Jindivik, though those last
> long since retired and transferred to the UK, while the Mk53 is just
> entering service.
To be able to project power over a long distance over water requires
considerable military investment and a manufacturing base to do so.
It is easy to make small arms, so you could have a low tech army.
It is possible to make light armoured vehicles from civilian engineering
It would be very hard to design an build an indigenous design for an MBT
especially one that can compete with major power designs.
It isn't likely that the Pacific Rim could develop the military
infrastructure to develop their own designs for fighter aircraft,
carriers or large naval combatants.
Even the current defence spending on frigates is based on designs from
Europe with components made under licence by local contractors.
Even China with it's much greater industrial based is believed to need
years to develop enough deep water naval capability to be expansionist
across the Pacific.
What is interesting is trying to imagine how you would get from the
state of affairs to militaristic enough to invade New Caledonia and
off France in only 10 electoral cycles. The last thing NZ wants to do is
jeopardise its relations with the EU because where would it sell its
agricultural products to.
Once scenario that springs to mind is that large deposits of unbotanium
to make FTL drives is discovered in the Tasman Sea. Exploitation of this
material could make both countries very rich but also very attractive to
take over. Wealthy but poorly protected makes for an attractive target.
Without the protection of the US, the ANZACs might need to get reborn to
fend off threats to the mineral wealth. The Pacific Islands would then
useful bases for maritime surveillance reducing the need for capital
At some point though someone would try to send in a naval squadron and
bit of gunboat diplomacy.
Could make for some interesting games
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