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>   1.	[OT] Revell of DE: SW Republic Star Destroyer (Doug Evans)
>   2.	Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Doug Evans)
>   3. Re:  Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Jaime Tiampo)
>   4.	comin' to Colorado (was: Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums) (Indy)
>   5.	Re:  [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (DOCAgren@aol.com)
>   6. Re:  [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases. (John K Lerchey)
>   7. Re:  Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off topic...
>      Bases (Doug Evans)
>   8. Re:  [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases. (John K Lerchey)
>   9. Re:  Re:  [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Jaime Tiampo)
>  10. Re:  Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off topic...
>      Bases (Jaime Tiampo)
>  11. Re:  Re:  [LST] Mail list vs. Forums (Doug Evans)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:09:28 -0500
> From: Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
> Subject: [GZG] [OT] Revell of DE: SW Republic Star Destroyer
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> After waxing lyric about the micro machines Republic Attack Cruiser,
I've
> found that Revell has created a <> 20in plastic model, unavailable in
the
> US. Is there anyone who knows a way to get one of these trans-shipped
> across the briny?
>
> The_Beast
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:17:29 -0500
> From: Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
> Subject: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
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> wscottfield@comcast.net wrote on 07/10/2006 10:51:27 AM:
>
>> Just to offer a different viewpoint: for the occasional
>> reader like myself forums are sometimes easier to keep up
>> with, because it's easier to sort out the threads you're
>> interested in. Yes, I know it's not really *that* hard to
>> skim down the digest past the parts that don't interest
>> me. But on a busy day, if it looks like the digest is
>> mostly full of SG2 posts (great game, I just don't have
>> time to play it) then I may not take the time to sort out
>> the 2 or 3 interesting FT posts.  (Not that I have much
>> time to play FT either, but...)  And if I want to go back
>> and catch up on a thread that I missed, a forum is often
>> easier than scanning email archives.
>
> Obvious not a 'different' viewpoint; shared by many. Right now, I'm
> assuming not either/or, but one will win out eventually.
>
>> Another advantage forums have over mailing lists is that
>> some people are hesitant about sending their email address
>> out to people they don't know.
>
> Mail lists can be set up to avoid that, though it's been a regular
thing
> for me to reply about something off list. Hidden addresses would tend
to
> kibosh that.
>
>> Also, some forums have the ability to email thread content
>> (either individually or in digest) to subscribers, if you
>> don't want to check the site regularly.
>
> Still usually a one-way conversation.
>
>> Personally, I'm fine either way.  And as infrequently as I
>> post anymore, no one should make decisions based on my
>> personal preferences either way. I'm just saying.
>
> I speak more often, but I certainly don't suggest of more value. This
list
> cherishes it's lurkers, trust me. Just, Laserlight would hope they
could 
> at
> least send in a few AAR's of new rules. (SEE, still pitching, Chris!)
>
> Notice, I did switch this back to BERKELEY!
>
>> From: Peter Thoenen <eol1@yahoo.com>
>> > Ja I know I will never look at it.  I can see how it
>> would be required
>> > from a marketting stand point (lets all admit it, its a
>> generational
>> > thing.  Upcoming markets (ala children) want forums, IM,
>> mod'ing, and
>> > threads.  Email and mailing lists are for us old fogies ;)
>>
>> Wow!  Been awhile since I was called too *young* for
>> anything, especially anything computer related - thanks! ;-)
>>
>> Scott "Forty Years Young" Field
>
> Only Forty? Damn, when did we let children in here... ;->=
>
> Still two months away from senior discounts(and don't EVEN mention
> retirement),
> The_Beast
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@spikyfishthing.com>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
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> To all those that went to the forums to check it out,
>
> I've manually activated all the accounts, there was an error in the
mail
> setup for the forums which I hadn't caught yet (it's not public yet so
I
> tend to do all the adjustments in the admin panel until testing stage
like
> this ;)
>
> The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts are now
active.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:23:01 -0400
> From: Indy <indy.kochte@gmail.com>
> Subject: [GZG] comin' to Colorado (was: Re: [LST] Mail list vs.
> Forums)
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> On 7/10/06, wscottfield@comcast.net <wscottfield@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> Scott "Forty Years Young" Field
>>
>
> You're 40?? When did that happen???
>
> Tell ya what, Scott. When I'm out in Colo next month, I'll let you
trounce
> me in a game of FT or two. :-)
>
> Mk
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> Well, I'll be honest unless U have unlimited space, forum also run
into 
> the
> "well we are out of space, so we are deleting all data back to and as 
> someone
> else mentioned earlier U have the ability to edit and remove/change
your
> posting after it been there.	 With the list, I don't think U can.  
And 
> to be
> honest    if the Mods of a forum, get a on a power trip, they can 
> block/delete
> anything they disagree with, and no one can see the otherside.   Here 
> years ago, I
> was here for a "Remove JohnA" period and it passed, aMod who disliked
John
> Could ban him at will.    I would prefer the list to remain, but I 
> understand
> that "forum are the new way.	 Just don't have to like it..
>
>
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> DOCAGREN
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> Just a Lurker here on the Digest, But maybe I have a good idea or 2..
> :-)
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:29:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases.
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> Beast,
>
> Much appreciated.  Let me know how much you want for 'em when you find
> 'em. :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> John K. Lerchey
> Assistant Director for Incident Response
> Information Security Office
> Carnegie Mellon University
>
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Doug Evans wrote:
>
>> John, I may have some extra; I'll have a look around, but you know
how 
>> that
>> goes...
>>
>> The painful part is, I'm sure I've seen blisters of just the bases on

>> some
>> online shop, but just can't recall where.
>>
>> The_Beast
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:31:15 -0500
> From: Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off
> topic... Bases
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> Jaime wrote on 07/10/2006 12:27:21 PM:
>
>> To all those that went to the forums to check it out,
>>
>> I've manually activated all the accounts, there was an
>> error in the mail
>> setup for the forums which I hadn't caught yet (it's not
>> public yet so I
>> tend to do all the adjustments in the admin panel until
>> testing stage like
>> this ;)
>>
>> The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts
>> are now active.
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>
> Thanks! Please note I am not hostile to the idea, just hate to lose
this
> special place we have.
>
>> I've got tonnes that I can let you have. I don't use them. Fell free
to
>> contact me directly and we'll work something out.
>
> John, unless you can find other things at Noble Games to pick up, this
> might be the way to go. With a minimum of $9.95, I'm having trouble
> assuming you want 40+ bases, and, anyway, they may not have that many.

> ;->=
>
> The_Beast
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: John K Lerchey <lerchey@andrew.cmu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] [FT] Re: Somewhat off topic... Bases.
> To: gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
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> Doug,
>
> Ok, that just ROCKS.	I ordered 12 packs.  They originally sold for
> something like $6.50, so without shipping that would have been $65. 
At
> $0.95 per pack, plus shipping, it came to $18 even.
>
> I owe you buddy!
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> John
>
> John K. Lerchey
> Assistant Director for Incident Response
> Information Security Office
> Carnegie Mellon University
>
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Doug Evans wrote:
>
>> Merde! Noble Knights claim to have blisters, $.95US per blister of
four.
>> Don't know what shipping is like, can't recommend, as I've never
traded
>> there,, just realized I'd seen 'em SOMEWHERE.
>>
>> If you jump, let me know how it goes.
>>
>>
http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137418719
_A_ManufacturerID_E_301_A_CategoryID_E_16_A_GenreID_E_
>> http://www.nobleknight.com/default.asp
>>
>> The_Beast
>>
>> ME wrote on 07/10/2006 11:54:10 AM:
>>
>>> John, I may have some extra; I'll have a look around, but
>>> you know how that
>>> goes...
>>>
>>> The painful part is, I'm sure I've seen blisters of just
>>> the bases on some
>>> online shop, but just can't recall where.
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@spikyfishthing.com>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Re:  [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
> To: gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
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>> Well, I'll be honest unless U have unlimited space, forum also run
into
>> the
>> "well we are out of space, so we are deleting all data back to and as
>> someone
>
> That can happen. Usually that is with small "rented" space that's
hosting
> the forum. I don't know what Jon's service provider has available for
him
> but the server that the test forum is on (mine) has gigabytes of space
> dedicated to things like this. If we double the usual list trafic, and
add
> in the in the test list's traffic (which the forum currently is also
> designed for) I figure it'll be about 10 years before that would be an
> issue. Space really isn't that much of an issue IF you think long term
and
> plan accordingly.
>
>> else mentioned earlier U have the ability to edit and remove/change
your
>> posting after it been there.   With the list, I don't think U can.  
And
>> to be
>
> No always. It's an option that you can enable or disable. Most boards
I
> know disable it. You can also set a timer on it so no editing after a
> certain period of time.
>
>> honest    if the Mods of a forum, get a on a power trip, they can
>> block/delete
>> anything they disagree with, and no one can see the otherside.   Here
>> years ago, I
>> was here for a "Remove JohnA" period and it passed, aMod who disliked

>> John
>> Could ban him at will.    I would prefer the list to remain, but I
>> understand
>> that "forum are the new way.   Just don't have to like it..
>
> Correct that can happen. That's a staffing and management issue. To be
> honest though a board can get away with very few moderators and if you
> choose right, that shouldn't be an issue. If it becomes one the simple
> solution is to remove the Mod.
>
> Also Mods don't have to have complete access to the admin features.
You
> can limit Mod access in a variety of ways allowing them to do only
> specific things. I've personally never had a Mod issue on any of my
> forums.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Jaime Tiampo" <fugugaipan@spikyfishthing.com>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Re: [LST] Mail list vs. Forums and Somewhat off
> topic... Bases
> To: gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
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>>> The email problem has been corrected and all the accounts
>>> are now active.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Thanks! Please note I am not hostile to the idea, just hate to lose
this
>> special place we have.
>
> I completely understand. The group here is great and it's one of the
> things that makes GZG games so special. I'm just offering a tool, that
if
> Jon wants it in the end, to increase the community for GZG games. I've
> just found some new recuits into the Tuffyverse from a 40K group I've
been
> playing with. I want to make it just as easy for others.
>
>>> I've got tonnes that I can let you have. I don't use them. Fell free
to
>>> contact me directly and we'll work something out.
>>
>> John, unless you can find other things at Noble Games to pick up,
this
>> might be the way to go. With a minimum of $9.95, I'm having trouble
>> assuming you want 40+ bases, and, anyway, they may not have that
many.
>> ;->=
>
> I was just going to give them to him for shipping ;-) Or he can trade
some
> ships for them ;-)  I really have no use for them. I pin all my ships
to
> fit in generic bases with tube stands.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:02:38 -0500
> From: Doug Evans <devans@nebraska.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GZG] Re:  [LST] Mail list vs. Forums
> To: gzg-l@lists.csua.berkeley.edu
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> Jaime wrote on 07/10/2006 12:52:17 PM:
>
> ***snippage***
>> > Here  years ago, I was here for a "Remove JohnA" period
>> >  and it passed, aMod who disliked John
>> > Could ban him at will.    I would prefer the list to remain, but I
>> > understand that "forum are the new way.   Just don't have to like
it..
>>
>> Correct that can happen. That's a staffing and management
>> issue. To be
>> honest though a board can get away with very few
>> moderators and if you
>> choose right, that shouldn't be an issue. If it becomes
>> one the simple
>> solution is to remove the Mod.
>
> Can Mods be limited to a particular topic? I assume they can be
restricted
> to a particular section, say Game Discussion, or subsection, say, FMA
> Skirmish, but, could I be given moderation of the topic I just
started? 
> Not
> asking to be the mod, just curious about the ganularity of control.
>
> I just came up against another problem I have with forums: J/JS. ;->=
>
> By the way, I was offering John bases of ships I've not built up since
I
> knew he'd get them into use long before I might. However, I may be
> interested in a few extra myself. We'll talk....
>
> The_Beast
>
>
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