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Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power

From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@v...>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 08:34:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [GZG] Holy Roman Empire - new minor power

From: "John Brewer"
>The Holy Roman Empire is based on the Papal States of the Renaissance.

  You're talking about two different entities.
  The HRE was predominantly German--in fact, the full name was the "Holy

Roman Empire of the German Nation". It did include parts of northern
Italy 
at one point but Rome was never the center of temporal power for the
Empire, 
and it was ruled (more or less--mostly less) by the Emperor rather than
the 
Pope.
   The Papal States included parts of Italy (and a bit of France, for a 
while) in which the Pope had temporal authority. At one point (1100-1300
or 
so, IIRC) the PS were de facto under control of the HRE, but even then
the 
PS were nominally independent. 

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