Re: [DS3] Dirtside Accelerator for Infantry
From: Brian B <greywanderer987@y...>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [DS3] Dirtside Accelerator for Infantry
The only problem with the accelerator is it gives
class 1 weapons of certain types as much lethality as
class 5 weapons of other types. I proposed a system
to the test list a while back, I'm not sure if it's OK
to present it to the main list yet. If so, I believe
OO has the details.
--- CS Renegade <njg@csrenegade.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I've introduced the Dirtside Accelerator
>
[http://lists.firedrake.org/gzg/199903/msg00351.html]
> at my local
> club.
>
> Regarding the accelerator itself, we find that it
> does deliver a
> considerable increase in speed even before all those
> irritating
> repair rolls and "what about that damaged tank?"
> cases are taken
> into account. Against that, I'm having difficulty
> losing my
> "weapon X beats armour x" & "armour X is proof
> against weapon x"
> wargamer's mentality, where X > x.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that single opposed dice
> give a flatter
> distribution than drawing N chits against a fixed
> target total,
> when N > 2? If so then this would account for my
> reservations,
> but it would lead us to replacing the unloved chit
> litter on the
> table with bucketloads of dice. I gather that there
> is already a
> rules system that does that.
>
> As published, the accelerator doesn't cater for
> infantry other than
> to publish a die for IVARs. Now it might be that
> rules from SG2
> could be dropped in to cover this discrepancy, but
> not owning a
> copy I offer the following alternatives: (zero
> testing as always)
>
> Direct Translation Of Existing Rules (DS2 pages
> 33-36)
> ====================================
> Ranges and limitations remain as per existing rules;
> the following
> purely replaces the chit draws.
>
> Militia / Line Infantry roll 1 D6
> APFC / HEL / RFAC / HVC / MDC roll 1 D6
> APSW / Powered / DFFG / SLAM-3 roll 1 D8
> SLAM-4 roll 1 D10
> SLAM-5 roll 1 D12
>
> target Militia roll 1 D4
> target Line Infantry roll 1 D6
> target Powered Armour roll 1 D8
>
> target +1 die type if in soft cover
> target +2 die types if urban or dug in
>
> Statistically a bit rough-and-ready, but spot checks
> suggest that
> these are not far from the current chances.
>
>
> Alternative Infantry Rules
> ==========================
> This is more of a personal interpretation of the DS
> arsenal; to
> do this properly I'd need to rewrite bits of pg 6, 8
> and 9, and
> then re-examine the ranges and other governing rules
> specified
> later in the book.
>
> Militia roll 2 D4
> Line Infantry, APFC roll 4 D4
> RFAC-1, HVC, most Powered Armour roll 2 D6
> APSW, SLAM-3 roll 3 D6
> MDC (cannister), SLAM-4 roll 4 D6
> SLAM-5, Powered Armour (AP) roll 5 D6
> RFAC-2 roll 1 D8
> DFFG roll 4 D8/D6
> MDC (flechette) roll 2 D10
> HEL roll 1 D12
>
> target Militia roll 1 D4
> target Line Infantry roll 1 D6
> target Powered Armour roll 2 D6 (not
> D6x2)
>
> firer -1 die if target in any cover
> target +1 die type if urban or dug in
>
> A hit is scored per single weapon die that exceeds
> the total
> thrown by the target, thus a weapon may eliminate
> multiple
> adjacent infantry stands.
>
> This makes some attempt to separate the chance of
> hitting and
> the chance of penetrating the personal armour of the
> target;
> if some of the chances I propose seem a bit strange
> it's
> because I've assumed that anything larger than
> RFAC-2 is
> mainly effective through blast or equivalent effect
> rather
> than a direct hit. Again, if I'm treading on ground
> already
> covered by SG2 then I'll quite happily entertain
> suggestions
> to buy a copy.
>
>
> Both of these proposals beg the question of
> artillery.
>
=====
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